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  • NVIDIA GeForce vs. AMD Radeon Linux Gaming Performance At The Start Of 2018

    Phoronix: NVIDIA GeForce vs. AMD Radeon Linux Gaming Performance At The Start Of 2018

    Here is a fresh look at the NVIDIA GeForce and AMD Radeon Linux graphics card performance as we start 2018. Testing was done using the latest Linux 4.15 Git kernel -- including the KPTI page table isolation support -- as well as using the newest Mesa 17.4-dev driver code for RadeonSI/RADV and on the NVIDIA side is their brand new 390.12 beta driver.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=25829

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    I propose to AMD a new power management model for their open and closed drivers that can possibly write the adjustments to Asic: 1)Lock down all GCN parts (even the used) from 1.2v to 1.05v +-something, Nvidia uses 1v and allows for 1.1v. 2)Make a Pstate6 basic upper clock that works regardless of Asic quality and a Pstate7 that doesn't have upper limit like Turbo for the lucky. 3) Overclock HBM one or two terminals up but not GDDR, that is because you offer GDDR just slightly down from maximum wile HBM is downed at least three levels (you will save Vega). 4)Unlock software locked cores when exist, for example Fury has 3584 cores and can be unlocked up to 3840. 5)Configure GPUs for silent work after the undervolting and make all the new ones Mini-ITX or even smaller editions (including smaller motherboards), no new technology - lots of new GPUs. This simple way is the way to gain ground from Nvidia. An answer like "i will speak for this" will be appreciated, do it before some free developer will.
    Last edited by artivision; 01-10-2018, 06:43 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by artivision View Post
      I propose to AMD a new power management model for their open and closed drivers that can possibly write the adjustments to Asic: 1)Lock down all GCN parts (even the used) from 1.2v to 1.05v +-something, Nvidia uses 1v and allows for 1.1v. 2)Make a Pstate6 basic upper clock that works regardless of Asic quality and a Pstate7 that doesn't have upper limit like Turbo for the lucky. 3) Overclock HBM one or two terminals up but not GDDR, that is because you offer GDDR just slightly down from maximum wile HBM is downed at least three levels (you will save Vega). 4)Unlock software locked cores when exist, for example Fury has 3584 cores and can be unlocked up to 3840. 5)Configure GPUs for silent work after the undervolting and make all the new ones Mini-ITX or even smaller editions (including smaller motherboards), no new technology - lots of new GPUs. This simple way is the way to gain ground from Nvidia. An answer like "i will speak for this" will be appreciated, do it before some free developer will.
      I'm not going to address the other points, but wouldn't #4 kinda ruin their products' tiering and stuff? Some SKUs are differentiated just by the number of enabled SPs.

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      • #4
        Wow, the RX 580 wiped the floor with the GTX 1060.

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        • #5
          very strong overall results for AMD, radv still needs to improve tough

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          • #6
            AMD FineWine (R) RX 580 constantly beating 1060. The "almighty nvidia linux driver" is not so strong now, eh?

            But there might still some "choppyness" problems in amd drivers, like "egee" findings here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlRyRkmQv70
            Last edited by gsedej; 01-10-2018, 07:33 PM. Reason: misspelling

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            • #7
              Originally posted by andrebrait View Post

              I'm not going to address the other points, but wouldn't #4 kinda ruin their products' tiering and stuff? Some SKUs are differentiated just by the number of enabled SPs.
              Isn't that kinda one of their problems right now? Don't you think AMD already has waaay too many products on the market right now? They could probably completely eliminate 7/8th of their product lines and still serve every market that exists. They have too many products that are too similar. They really need to kill multiple layers of tiers. Take all of those products from different tiers that are basically the same anyway and eliminate them. It would help consumers a whole lot.
              Last edited by duby229; 01-10-2018, 08:06 PM.

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              • #8
                Very impressive, opengl in most tasks have same min fps than gtx 1060 but better max fps, 10fps more in min in bioshock infinite not bad

                Only RX 580 consume so much maybe if amd improve when launch 7nm: if them can offer a gpu with RX470 performance but consume 60w will be good

                Hopefully them complete opengl extensions (including AZDO), driver GUI (hopefully amd can free GUI as them said time ago) and resolve freezes / compatibility in this year

                When them have before cited topic many users can try amd card

                Last edited by pinguinpc; 01-10-2018, 08:23 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by duby229 View Post

                  Isn't that kinda one of their problems right now? Don't you think AMD already has waaay too many products on the market right now? They could probably completely eliminate 7/8th of their product lines and still serve every market that exists. They have too many products that are too similar. They really need to kill multiple layers of tiers. Take all of those products from different tiers that are basically the same anyway and eliminate them. It would help consumers a whole lot.
                  Yes and no. Are you suggesting they just throw away semi-defective dies?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gsedej View Post
                    But there might still some "choppyness" problems in amd drivers, like "egee" findings here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlRyRkmQv70
                    I think if it was that bad in reality, people would have noticed and complained about it already. That guy is just spreading nonsense. "AAA games don't even support the damn cards" when a game from 2015 - a Feral port of all things - pops a message? Must have been living under a rock the past two and a half years (and probably hasn't updated his drivers in the meantime). Tomb Raider runs like shit? Yes. Does he test it on an Nvidia card just to find out that it runs equally shit on those as well? No, of course not, must be the AMD drivers.

                    Where valid complaints about the Vulkan driver mess, Vega not having had out-of-the-box display support for half a year, VCE being next to unusable, lack of a GUI configuration utility, having to keep up with newest driver versions etc.? Nowhere to be found. Where does he tell us which distro and driver version he's using? Well, he doesn't.

                    That entire video is just wrong on so many levels.

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