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    Phoronix: FSF Certifies Another Batch Of Old Hardware For Respecting Your Freedom

    The Free Software Foundation has endorsed fifteen "new" devices under their Respects Your Freedom (RYF) certification...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...F-Fifteen-2017

  • #2
    The T400 and friends... AGAIN. How are there enough of these ancient thinkpads still in circulation that are still working that they can still be selling them, and how are there enough fools willing to buy these things that they're a sustainable business even at their 10x markup?

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    • #3
      I run old hardware (and new), so the age of the laptop doesn't bother me. I'm more interested in ensuring I've got the latest, secure software running on top of it. I don't use computers for videogames, so I'm sure a T400 or T500 would work fine for me.

      However, I agree that Technoethical's prices seem high. A good comparison is to look at Libreboot laptops sold by the British firm Minifree.

      Minifree is selling the T400 with 4G ram and 160G hard drive for 198 euros, or an 8G ram model for 298 euros. But Technoethical has an 8G ram and 160G hard drive model listed for 568 euros. Nearly twice as much for the same laptop (both list the same CPU). Minifree is charging 178 euros for Libreboot installation if you provide the laptop, while Technoethical is charging 248 euros for the same service. I wonder if Technoethical is listing higher starting prices, but is willing to negotiate down? Maybe price negotiation is a cultural thing in Romania? I know that most American and British shops tend to charge the price as marked, with no negotiating.

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      • #4
        Frankly, I'm more interested in that mPCIe WiFi card they're selling. For a completely free card, it's got almost everything I'd want (no BT but that's okay, and I have no need or desire for AC WiFi). More expensive than the Gigabyte+Intel card I like, but this one's good to go.

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        • #5
          Brainwashing people with expensive fsf religion is not respecting freedom. Fsf believers will burn me because of this comment. Running Debian testing Xfce in a new HP Amd A12-9700P laptop is enough free software usage.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
            Brainwashing people with expensive fsf religion is not respecting freedom. Fsf believers will burn me because of this comment. Running Debian testing Xfce in a new HP Amd A12-9700P laptop is enough free software usage.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
              Brainwashing people with expensive fsf religion is not respecting freedom. Fsf believers will burn me because of this comment. Running Debian testing Xfce in a new HP Amd A12-9700P laptop is enough free software usage.


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              • #8
                Ha ha 618€ ?!?!? Overpriced, just to expensive

                ... from Stalman's Junkyard. FSF certified, also. What a joke ...

                Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
                Brainwashing people with expensive fsf religion is not respecting freedom. Fsf believers will burn me because of this comment. Running Debian testing Xfce in a new HP Amd A12-9700P laptop is enough free software usage.

                1280×800 TFT LCD resolution to old, by modern standards

                Better reflash firmware myself on second a hand laptop and gaining experience also, at a much lower price.

                Last edited by onicsis; 07-08-2017, 11:39 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by onicsis View Post
                  1280×800 TFT LCD resolution to old, by modern standards
                  According to reality that resoultion is 5th most used desktop resolution:

                  http://gs.statcounter.com/screen-res...ktop/worldwide

                  That 1366x768 is still most used, even in NA alone

                  http://gs.statcounter.com/screen-res.../north-america

                  In US alone, 1366x768 might be second but only maybe next month or so even there it is still first or to say near equal to FHD

                  http://gs.statcounter.com/screen-res...tes-of-america

                  Worldwide would need another 3-5 years or so
                  Last edited by dungeon; 07-09-2017, 02:09 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
                    That 1366x768 is still most used, even in NA alone
                    That's the case also worldwide.
                    I'm really starting to think you'll still find 1366x768 TN screens in consumer devices even after my eventual demise.

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