System76 To Begin Their Own Product Design & Manufacturing

[GI_Jack]

Things I want:

• Open source UEFI firmware
• Support for coreboot.
• Open hardware. Schemata, wiring diagrams and CAD drawings for the PCB and the chassis.
• USB Type-C.
  • Charging over USB Type-C.

Project I really really want to see:

PC equiv of Team Win. coreboot + seabios + tianocore + nice and easy to use gui + nice installer

[Cerberus]

https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php

If you're from somewhere close to Germany, there's also this German Linux PC/Laptop manufacturer: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php
Shipping within the EU, so no import taxes.
The online shop itself seems to be in German only, however you can configure the Laptops to a great extent, including which keyboard layout they use. German, English, Spanish, French, Italian, Swedish keyboard layouts are all available.

Checked their prices, their prices are a bit high, a powerful 17.3" gaming laptop is 2330 EUR the way I configured it, for the same price I can literally buy Asus ROG laptop with exactly the same hardware and better cooling system, they should be cheaper than famous brands, I like www.pcspecialist.co.uk they have custom made laptops, but they cost less than Asus, Dell and other big names, and from what I heard their service is good, too bad UK will leave the EU so unless some tax related deal is made ordering from them wont be a good option anymore.

[IreMinMon]

Enterprise means ease of maintenance and robustness, not shiny, Apple-like-almost-impossible-to-fix machines. Also, be able to upgrade RAM and storage with available parts is a must, not a thing of the past, unless you like the idea of programed obsolescence. And there is a lot of things in a laptop that can go wrong and need to be replaced with new parts. Screen, keyboard, memory chips, storage, wifi, all of these can and will broke in a heavily used machine and you need to fix it. Apple computers are not immune to this at all.

I agree with you, but still, the motherboard can be small. You open up a P-series Thinkpad and there's like 4 SATA 2.5" slots, 6 M.2 slots and 46 RAM slots.

Modern (at least high-endish) computer shouldn't need any more than 2 RAM slots and 4-5 M.2 slots, depends on whether things such as WLAN and WWAN card are integrated onto the motherboard or not. A single cooling fan should be enough for 15W CPU + iGPU configurations and 2 fans should be enough for 45W CPU + dGPU configurations. Though still, retarded decisions to put max 80*C components and max 95*C components on the same heatsink, like Razer tends to do with ther computers, should be avoided.

[ldo17]

I have no desire to fork out top dollar for a notebook utilizing the same commodity hardware as every single other notebook that is being sold on the market today.

It’s all a matter of marketing—look at the sellers of bottled water.

[pal666]

except for the open hardware part. There's no way that's happening on an x86 system.

well, his description of open hardware describes open pcb, which is doable

[pal666]

Uh, no, I think you mean the experts were proven right.

lol, only in your dreams

The Tesla roadster was smaller inside than a Geo Metro, and the electric range was terrible.

roadster showed that bev could destroy ice, which was not known to wide public before. and almost ten years later people like you are still living on trees

The build quality was questionable, and they didn't sell many of them.

they sold all 2.5k for which they had contract for lotus gliders

Of the ones sold, very few are even still on the road.

how did you measure that? how many other sportcars from 2008 are on the road?

Tesla Motors has been losing money every year since their inception, they don't have a single profitable product.

well that idiotic fantasy is often repeated by drug addicts trying to short tesla and all what awaits them is "tsunami of hurt (c)"
tesla has huge margin for automotive industry (25-30%). but it takes all that profit and invests it in expanding production. because tesla sales are limited by production, not by demand. in last year sales grew from 50k to 80k. this year will grow again. shorts will jump out of windows again. and btw tesla had profitable quarter recently

if we're going to evaluate them in terms of competitiveness and profitability on the open market, they fail miserably.

only if you are idiot. tesla dominates market of luxury sedans in us.

The only reason the company hasn't gone out of business, is the backing of their billionaire owner, media hype, and their stock market cap i.e. individual investors.

so you are idiot. their "billionaire owner" does not have billions, he has stock. and he owns only 22% of tesla, which he got early(for less money, less than 100m), everything else is backed by other investors and they are not individual. they are banks etc. and banks do this for money, not for hype. tesla hasn't gone out of business because tesla does not spend more than it can

[pal666]

Hopefully their devices will not be as expensive as the Model S.

model s starts lower than 2x price of average american car. so "as expensive" laptop will cost less than 2x price of average american laptop. now i have no idea what that price is

[Dr. Righteous]

Engineering for the auto install and hardware test, and Linux tech support later. An OEM like Dell only pays about $20 for a copy of Windows. Supporting a different OS is easily more expensive.

Yes, but I don't see that as a reoccurring cost. Once you have hardware that has good support, you are there.

[Zan Lynx]

Engineering for the auto install and hardware test, and Linux tech support later. An OEM like Dell only pays about $20 for a copy of Windows. Supporting a different OS is easily more expensive.

[Dr. Righteous]

I've been pondering a new laptop with Ubuntu but the vendors I've looked at that offer linux usually have them priced MORE than the equivalent with windows. This make no sense to me.