OUYA: A $99 Android Linux Game Console

[KameZero]

counting Android as a Linux install is like counting dead people in a census.

Coming up with a metaphor that makes sense is like eating Elmer's glue.

[Kivada]

Are you RETARDED or something?
Jailbreaking is for BREAKING OUT OF A CHROOT JAIL.
Android DOES NOT USE CHROOT JAIL.


When you buy a laptop, do you select the mainboard separately?
No, I didn't think so.

Tablets are JUST LIKE LAPTOPS.



Default is irrelevant.
Samsung devices are firmware unlocked FROM FACTORY.
Loading custom firmware to it is AS TRIVIAL as installing GNU/Linux on a laptop that ships with msvirus.

HTC devices are firmware unlockABLE from factory.
You go to their website and enter your IMEI to unlock, then they are as trivial as Samsung devices.

All CHINESE TABLETS are UNLOCKED from factory. Just install your custom firmware. TRIVIAL.


THERE IS NO HACKING AT ALL REQUIRED TO INSTALL DIFFERENT OS ON THE MAJORITY OF ANDROID PHONES AND TABLETS!!!!

The fuck would I know that? I don't bother with the Android not fully OSS compatible hardware. Can you use the Android drivers with an ARM Linux distro? Last I checked no, at least for display drivers.

As for laptops, the last laptop i bought was a 2001 iBook that lasted me until 2009, I've no need for another laptop currently but if I did I'd order something from Zareason, System76 or Ohava and not have to wonder if everything will work out of the box or not.

But as I said, counting Android as a Linux install is like counting dead people in a census.

[XorEaxEax]

Heh, Android-based tablet for Christians http://www.familychristian.com/edifi

I hear it will segfault if you type in 'darwin' or 'theory of evolution'

[madjr]

And Linus seems pretty proud of how android is doing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKxlYNfT_o

[Micket]

You'd have to use the kernel that the video driver was compiled against. So if you can squeeze that kernel into your Ubuntu distro then you might be going somewhere. Of course I'm not sure what you'd use for a display since there's no X support in the driver or kernel.

This is kind of what the CM9 guys did when they ported ICS over to the HP TouchPad. It's basically Android userspace wrapped around the original HP Palm linux kernel + binary blobs.

Isn't this the same hardware as in the Asus transformer. There is a binary blob for the gpu acceleration,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK_4cXHnyss

This guy is working hard to have a normal ubuntu installation instead of android.

[johnc]

Example, You have an new Android tablet, or a new released Ubuntu 12.04 tablet. Which one do you buy?

The one that "just works", of course. And considering how Ubuntu 12.04 is an unmitigated disaster on my desktop but my Android tablet and phone are generally trouble-free... I know which one I'm buying.

[johnc]

ok, so can anyone please answer this:

quick question:

if I install a normal linux distro (like ubuntu) on an ARM nvidia tegra tablet, will I have full GPU acceleration , since am using the linux kernel or is the acceleration only available on android ?

thanks

You'd have to use the kernel that the video driver was compiled against. So if you can squeeze that kernel into your Ubuntu distro then you might be going somewhere. Of course I'm not sure what you'd use for a display since there's no X support in the driver or kernel.

This is kind of what the CM9 guys did when they ported ICS over to the HP TouchPad. It's basically Android userspace wrapped around the original HP Palm linux kernel + binary blobs.

[AnonymousCoward]

Are you RETARDED or something?

Is this really necessary? Please tone down a little bit, one maldorordiscord-qaridarium in this forum is more than enough.

[Tobu]

To moderate my previous comment about things that are theoretically possible, NVIDIA have not been amenable to providing some basic functionality that they have split out of the kernel: http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/d...al-components/

So I guess I'm with Linus: they are hard to work with, flipping them the bird is appropriate.

[Tobu]

quick question:

if I install a normal linux distro (like ubuntu) on an ARM nvidia tegra tablet, will I have full GPU acceleration , since am using the linux kernel or is the acceleration only available on android ?

There isn't a single image that can boot on ARM devices at the moment. Installing on ARM starts out different from normal distro installs, because you need an image customised for the hardware model.

Looking at http://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra

You can get a bootloader, and an ubuntu-derived filesystem image that together should (I haven't tried) boot on some Tegra 3 devices (provided they don't start with a Tivo-style locked bootloader), but the graphics driver is a binary blob and NVIDIA wants it to stay that way. I don't know if there is a way to drive the hardware (accelerated or not) without the blob.