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  • MetalheadGautham
    started a topic Radeon HD4330 vs GeForce G210M

    Radeon HD4330 vs GeForce G210M

    There are a couple of laptops I am intersted in buying which differ in a very small but significant way.

    I need OpenGL 3.2 support, DirectX 10 support and OpenCL support.

    Laptops are Dell Inspiron 14 and Lenovo IdeaPad G450.

    Config:

    Specs are similar, with Intel Pentium Dual Core T4200, 2GB DDR3 RAM, 14" 720p screen, bluetooth, wifi, etc.


    Difference:

    Dell Inspiron 14
    250GB 7200RPM HDD with FFS
    ATI Radeon HD4330 512MB

    Lenovo IdeaPad G450
    320GB 5400RPM HDD
    nVidia GeForce G210M 512MB


    Now I need both good gaming performance under Windows 7 and full graphics support under 64bit Linux.

    OpenCL if I'm not much mistaken is supported by Intel CPUs right ? AMD Released an x86 driver for OpenCL. If it works as it should, the fact that the GPUs don't support them is not much of a concern since I only want to *learn* and start *coding* with OpenCL, and not actually use it for performance.

    Which laptop should I go for ?


    And please gimme some pointers as to which is more reliable. I need it to last till 2013.

  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by Ant P. View Post
    ATi is by far the superior choice on Linux when you take the blob out of the equation.
    Uhuh, right, and how is that openCL, video playback, and over all performance going on those free drivers?

    Going nVidia here just forces Product Activation onto your Linux install: if they think you're not spending enough money on their cards, kiss your driver updates goodbye!
    Total bullshit.

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  • Ant P.
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    I'm not sure why this needs three pages, it's a no-brainer.

    Ignore nVidia completely. You have no use for it since you're dual-booting with Windows 7 already so you can do all your blob driver things there. ATi is by far the superior choice on Linux when you take the blob out of the equation. Going nVidia here just forces Product Activation onto your Linux install: if they think you're not spending enough money on their cards, kiss your driver updates goodbye!

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by tball View Post
    Again it works ok for me. And again xvba is just starting to work for some of us and isn't even 'released'. Don't you remember all the bugs related to vdpau in its early days?

    Well something we can agree, is we knew about xvba sooner than good is (before any developers even actively developed any xvba backend for the desktop). But I don't think xvba will stay inmature
    It took about 3 months for it to be in a very good usable state. It's initial release however was already at a far more usable state then xvba currently is. Introduced mid November and by February it was pretty much working as it should.

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  • tball
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    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    @BlackStar

    I provided lots of test files with broken decode using XvBA and guess what: none of it works yet correctly. That was several month ago and still nothing happend. 9-12 hotfix resolved the full system crash with one file, wow, but it still only shows crap. When you "support" something then it must get fixes when it does not work as it should and that's not the case.
    Again it works ok for me. And again xvba is just starting to work for some of us and isn't even 'released'. Don't you remember all the bugs related to vdpau in its early days?

    Well something we can agree, is we knew about xvba sooner than good is (before any developers even actively developed any xvba backend for the desktop). But I don't think xvba will stay inmature

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  • Kano
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    @BlackStar

    I provided lots of test files with broken decode using XvBA and guess what: none of it works yet correctly. That was several month ago and still nothing happend. 9-12 hotfix resolved the full system crash with one file, wow, but it still only shows crap. When you "support" something then it must get fixes when it does not work as it should and that's not the case.

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  • TASADAR-F
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    Choose Nvidia for oficial drivers and VDPAU(vdpau works very well and support SD and HD codecs.

    I wait for XVBA since september 2008 for my HD4670. You should choose Nvidia. I'm very tired of wait all my life.
    Last edited by TASADAR-F; 01-16-2010, 06:59 PM.

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  • BlackStar
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    As brigdman has said more than once, Ati has changed their plans and they are working to support XVBA on consumer hardware. You know that, yet you conveniently ignore this piece of information just for an opportunity to bash Ati.

    I don't know when you devolved into a troll, but that's what you are doing here.

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  • Kano
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    The funny thing is that is was never supposed to be released, so wait till the end of time and it will never work.

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  • BlackStar
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    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    @tball

    xvba is pure crap when you are not so lucky as you. h264 support is far from good. at least since yesterday you don't need to remember to use vaapi:gl, but thats all.
    You are talking about pre-release software here. Wait at least until it's ready before bashing it! (If you recall, VDPAU sucked a lot in the beginning, too: image corruption, kernel lockups, bad vsync, dropped frames...)

    I've had very good experience with the business lines from Dell and HP. My Dell D830, especially, is one of the best machines I've ever used. Excellent keyboard, monitor (15.4'', 1680x1050, PVA panel), good processor with VT, Nvidia GPU (Quadro NVS135M, rather slow but feature-full) and an amazing >3.5h battery life. The only downsides are the weight and the fact that the battery died after ~2 years.

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