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    Phoronix: Linux 6.13 To Drop Some Old & No Longer Maintained Staging Drivers

    With a number of patches queued this week into the staging tree ahead of the Linux 6.13 kernel, a number of old and no longer maintained hardware drivers are set to be removed in the next kernel cycle...

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    A very productive week

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    • #3
      Waiting for René Rebe video on this.

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      • #4
        Hmm, the Realtek RTS5208 is used in e.g. the Dell Latitude 2120 ( https://www.dell.com/support/home/de...iverid=r284430 ) and 2110 ( https://www.dell.com/support/home/de...driverid=w7j01 ), the HP Folio 13-2000 seems to use the RTS5288 variant (https://www.sysnative.com/forums/thr...-reader.30128/ ). At least the later laptop can still be used as of today ( https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-H...k.70667.0.html )... Replacing the card reader in a laptop is not so easy...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mifritscher View Post
          Replacing the card reader in a laptop is not so easy...
          Fortunately, it's pretty easy to replace an ancient laptop. Anyway...

          "This driver was contributed back in 2011 but doesn't appear to be actively used"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by NateHubbard View Post

            Fortunately, it's pretty easy to replace an ancient laptop. Anyway...

            "This driver was contributed back in 2011 but doesn't appear to be actively used"
            Or simply use a generic USB card reader... although yes, 10yo notebooks/desktops/etc. even are getting to be a bit long in the tooth for general usage... you might get away using them as headless servers or VERY minimal desktop but the power usage is likely to eliminate them anyways, along w/aging connectivity standards... power usage* ...

            * where I live in the US they have started adding 'tiered' power rates at different times of the day, always HIGHER(much) than the base rate and no commensurate lower cost at ANY point in the day/year yet they ludicrously do NOT call this a rate increase, which it clearly is... I digress... also before you start typing, solar really isn't that useful where I live between well treed area, and larger proportion of the year being snowy and as cloudy or not -> solar panels useless effectively, c. half the year... excepting for the exceedingly rare light snow years, e.g. last... first in a decade or longer... well this is a fuller discussion point for somewhere else..., hold your keys please...

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            • #7
              Great, guess i cant update Arch on my older 2010 thinkpad anymore. https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:Edge_13%22 It's not even that old... and runs completely fine with upgraded ram...

              Edit: Nvm, rtl8192e != rtl8192ce
              Last edited by ojsl1; 13 October 2024, 07:11 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cutterjohn View Post

                Or simply use a generic USB card reader... although yes, 10yo notebooks/desktops/etc. even are getting to be a bit long in the tooth for general usage... you might get away using them as headless servers or VERY minimal desktop but the power usage is likely to eliminate them anyways, along w/aging connectivity standards... power usage* ...
                Laptops definitely. 10 years old = 2 cores / 4 thread Intel machines with extremely weak iGPUS dominating the landscape. That's just not a pleasant experience today.

                Cheap workstations from that era though are still quite usable for general purpose machines. You can pick up a Haswell / Broadwell gen single socket system dirt cheap and throw in a $25 Xeon 2690 v4 that gives you 14 cores / 28 threads with a 3.2GHz all core turbo on 14nm / a real 135W TDP. A barely shlower 120W 14 core 2680 v4 is a ~$15 USD CPU these days. You also get boat loads of PCIe lanes and x16 / x8 slots on these systems. Loading them up with tons of NVMe drives is easy. Dual Xeon workstations are almost equally cheap from that generation, but there you can definitely question the power usage. I was honestly a bit underwhelmed going from a dual 2690 v4 system to an AM5 7900X3D other than the power consumption.

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                • #9
                  4G / 5G cellular modem support has been a long-standing sore point for laptops on Linux. Obviously it's the manufacturer's fault that there aren't many models with good upstream support, but it's somewhat ironic when millions of these things are working fine in Android devices running a Linux kernel.

                  The well supported models tend to be slow ancient designs with terrible band support. It's not hard to get 100x the speed from your modern phone sitting right next to your technically "LTE" but not really in spirit cellular toting Linux laptop.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post

                    Laptops definitely. 10 years old = 2 cores / 4 thread Intel machines with extremely weak iGPUS dominating the landscape. That's just not a pleasant experience today.

                    Cheap workstations from that era though are still quite usable for general purpose machines. You can pick up a Haswell / Broadwell gen single socket system dirt cheap and throw in a $25 Xeon 2690 v4 that gives you 14 cores / 28 threads with a 3.2GHz all core turbo on 14nm / a real 135W TDP. A barely shlower 120W 14 core 2680 v4 is a ~$15 USD CPU these days. You also get boat loads of PCIe lanes and x16 / x8 slots on these systems. Loading them up with tons of NVMe drives is easy. Dual Xeon workstations are almost equally cheap from that generation, but there you can definitely question the power usage. I was honestly a bit underwhelmed going from a dual 2690 v4 system to an AM5 7900X3D other than the power consumption.
                    I have two haswell notebooks, they're usable, BUT they ARE showing their age... they're also not helped by being optimus systems w/nvidia dGPUs and UHD intel gfx and software that never worked well, and now they're a decade old who cares as neither are useful excepting simple things... I could elucidate, but whats the point on ten year old hardware thats effectively abandoned... and it should be as IIRC they were 45W parts, 4810MQ i7 IIRC plus the nvidia dGPUs.... (and I got the 4810MQ as it was a 'free' upgrade from 4700MQ i7 when I purchased the notebooks... and that was aworthwhile 'free' upgrade... next step was IIRC 4900MQ which was $100 more for 100MHz and not much else...)

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