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  • #21
    Originally posted by curfew View Post
    I have an NVME SSD in a USB enclosure and its performance is abysmal. At first it starts off pretty well, writing 500+ MB/s, but after a minute or two it dips to around 150 MB/s -- that would be acceptable for an HDD! The drive is also bloody hot.
    sounds like your ssd has an slc cache.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by curfew View Post
      I have an NVME SSD in a USB enclosure and its performance is abysmal. At first it starts off pretty well, writing 500+ MB/s, but after a minute or two it dips to around 150 MB/s -- that would be acceptable for an HDD! The drive is also bloody hot.
      500MB/s for 1 minute? That's 30GBs. How often do you do that? You're hammering that SSD pretty hard

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      • #23
        Originally posted by DanL View Post

        You forgot the NB/SB chipset. Nvidia found a way to make the chipset so hot, it needed active cooling.
        I did neglect to mention that. You could say that AMD also brought this joy with the X570 chipset.

        Originally posted by danmcgrew View Post
        "First it was CPUs...Now SSDs are starting the process..."

        "...Nvidia found a way to make the chipset so hot..."


        I'm almost certain that there is a mechanism at work here called "progress". (With all due respect, there is a slight problem with the logic involved in the 'Nvidia Example'; some would say that, by making a more powerful chipset, Nvidia found they had a chipset which consumed more power; which. of course, generated more heat...which needed to be dissipated somehow).

        As I see it, one has only two choices:

        1) accept the fact that building ever-more-powerful integrated circuits in--approximately--the same-sized packages will result in higher heat generation, with ever more sophisticated heat-dissipation and heat-mitigation techniques required; and/or

        2) deny that a problem exists. This technique was tried by the firm known for their--to this day--continuing engineering wizardry, the Raspberry Pi organization. Eben Upton tried his utmost to deny that there was heat problem with the (then) new Raspberry Pi 3. This, in the face of overwhelming amounts of irrefutable published evidence consisting of hard data AND thermal images, from very many sources.
        This choice didn't work for Eben Upton.
        It won't work for you.
        I am in favour of another option - improving the technology so that it doesn't consume so much power/generate so much heat. That is addressed somewhat by manufacturing process improvements - if AMD had manufactured the I/0 dies they used for x570 on TSMC 7nm instead of GF 12, it would not have required a fan - but mostly in this case by materials. Or maybe not mostly by materials. The CPUs of the future will not be made of silicon, but maybe radically different designs will also help them not require fans and silly amounts of metal to cool.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          500MB/s for 1 minute? That's 30GBs. How often do you do that? You're hammering that SSD pretty hard
          Well that was observed during a full-disk cloning process...

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          • #25
            Originally posted by curfew View Post
            I have an NVME SSD in a USB enclosure and its performance is abysmal. At first it starts off pretty well, writing 500+ MB/s, but after a minute or two it dips to around 150 MB/s -- that would be acceptable for an HDD! The drive is also bloody hot.
            You need to check the files load on your system, That will be one of the main issue that makes your HDD hot.

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