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  • #11
    Unix layout I hope?

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    • #12
      will they offer a Pop!_OS key?!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
        Does the world have some kind of fetish for mechanical keyboards? Why the hell does every 'high-end' keyboard need to be mechanical?!

        They will have to pry my scissor switch keyboards off my cold dead hands.
        Some people think McDonalds Big Mac is a "quality meal". Scissor switch feels like trash compared to a Cherry MX switch. I personally use the Ducky One 2 with the Brown switches. A good deal at $125 with heavy sturdy design, usb-c, programmable RGB, etc.

        That said, I will definitely buy one of these System76 keyboards. I imagine it will cost a fair bit more than the Ducky though. Ducky firmware is proprietary and requires a Windows program to update it, so System76 has the advantage here. Open firmware with fwupd and the sexy CNC aluminum frame is worth paying more for. As much time as I spend at the keyboard, I don't mind splashing for one that's a pleasure to use.
        Last edited by torsionbar28; 10 February 2021, 10:42 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
          Does the world have some kind of fetish for mechanical keyboards? Why the hell does every 'high-end' keyboard need to be mechanical?!

          They will have to pry my scissor switch keyboards off my cold dead hands.
          Because mechanical switches are independent to some degree (unlike membrane) and are replaceable.

          It's like comparing artificial meals against natural meals, or musical instruments against realistic samples or synths.

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          • #15
            I have arthritis in my hands and fingers. Mechanical keyboards sound like torture devices to me.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by sheldonl View Post
              I have arthritis in my hands and fingers. Mechanical keyboards sound like torture devices to me.
              You've got it backwards. Your cheapo membrane switch keyboard requires that you mash the key down hard until it doesn't go any further. This is particularly hard on your fingers and joints, and causes pain for those with arthritis or carpal tunnel syndrome.

              Mechanical switches on the other hand, have significant key travel, and have a tactile feel that allows you to register the keypress *without* depressing the key all the way down and crashing into the stop. This is why writers and others who do loads of typing prefer mechanical keyboards - because they're so much gentler on your finger joints, they're more comfortable to use for long periods of time.
              Last edited by torsionbar28; 10 February 2021, 11:32 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
                You've got it backwards. Your cheapo membrane switch keyboard requires that you mash the key down hard until it doesn't go any further. This is particularly hard on your fingers and joints, and causes pain for those with arthritis or carpal tunnel syndrome.

                Mechanical switches on the other hand, have significant key travel, and have a tactile feel that allows you to register the keypress *without* depressing the key all the way down and crashing into the stop. This is why writers and others who do loads of typing prefer mechanical keyboards - because they're so much gentler on your finger joints, they're more comfortable to use for long periods of time.
                That's nonsense. Light switches like reds and browns, and linear switches are impossible to avoid bottoming out. And controlled presses are much more tiring and uncomfortable than just simply hammering down.

                The whole premise of 'mechanical switches don't need to be bottomed out' is just what it is; a complete sham.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
                  Does the world have some kind of fetish for mechanical keyboards? Why the hell does every 'high-end' keyboard need to be mechanical?!

                  They will have to pry my scissor switch keyboards off my cold dead hands.
                  The scissor part is just a retention mechanism, and it’s only used on laptops. The layer of switches below is just a cheap rubber membrane.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
                    That's nonsense. Light switches like reds and browns, and linear switches are impossible to avoid bottoming out. And controlled presses are much more tiring and uncomfortable than just simply hammering down.

                    The whole premise of 'mechanical switches don't need to be bottomed out' is just what it is; a complete sham.
                    I'm typing this on cherry mx brown switches, and i'm not bottoming out, so yes, i think i know what i'm talking about. That's the whole point of the tactile switches, so that you can feel the key register *before* you hit bottom. Hence why I specifically mentioned the tactile switches in my post... not sure why you're bringing up linear ones. You're really telling the guy with arthritis to 'hammer down' on the keys?? Yikes, somehow I don't think he will be taking your advice!

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by bearoso View Post
                      The scissor part is just a retention mechanism, and it’s only used on laptops. The layer of switches below is just a cheap rubber membrane.
                      That's not true and you know it.

                      There are lots of good (and shit) keyboards out there using scissor switches. Microsoft's and Logi's scissor switch keyboards are top notch.

                      I would buy scissor switch keyboards direct from Chinese brands for the substantial savings through Taobao, but apparently the Chinese consumers have little interest in such keyboards, because practically no Chinese vendor makes and sells them for the domestic market.

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