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Originally posted by tildearrow View PostWait so this means my chip is crap too? It doesn't seem to be the case except for a very faint thermal noise that I somehow can hear.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostSo, not only the sound fidelity of these chips sucks because it's low-end, but it also adds analog interference, and for you "it does not seem to be bad". You have very low standards I guess.
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Originally posted by tildearrow View PostThanks for the information. Where can I find a good sound card/audio interface?
You usually need a quality headset or over-ear headphones to actually hear the difference.
Nothing gold-plated but some named brand like Sony or Sennheiser in the 30 euro price range, I have a Senheiser HD202, for example. If you use the headphones that came with your smartphone box or "whatever is cheapest", or bullshit brands like Beats it's unlikely you will hear much difference because the headphones themselves are the bottleneck.
As for base audio setup for a static system I have a Logitech Z333, it comes with decent tweeter (the small audio emitter at the top of the two small boxes) and has a subwoofer (the bigger one in the box), which is the bare minimum you need to actually hear the full sound range correctly. It's again not golden ears audio equipment by any means, I got it for 60 euro, years ago.
Also, using quality recordings (high bitrate and/or lossless, or wav files copied straight from CD, or movies in their native language from DVD/Bluray) matters. As again if your media sucks at the source all the hardware you have can't save it.
Note that this is the "bottom floor" audio setup. Aka most people should be able to hear a difference at this point (or actually care). If you don't notice anything significant at this stage, then you won't probably notice much even going in the high end (which is significantly more expensive but still realistic), an you most definitely won't notice the audiophile-grade bs like "directional copper cables" and "cable elevators" to keep the cable from touching the ground and so on.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAsus Xonar U3 and U7 should be good ones that also work on Linux, on USB interface (which is perfectly adequate for sound, no need to waste a PCIe slot with that).
USB audio interfaces tend to add a small amount of latency...
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostYou usually need a quality headset or over-ear headphones to actually hear the difference.
Nothing gold-plated but some named brand like Sony or Sennheiser in the 30 euro price range, I have a Senheiser HD202, for example. If you use the headphones that came with your smartphone box or "whatever is cheapest", or bullshit brands like Beats it's unlikely you will hear much difference because the headphones themselves are the bottleneck.
Although, nothing gold-plated? What is so bad about gold?
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAs for base audio setup for a static system I have a Logitech Z333, it comes with decent tweeter (the small audio emitter at the top of the two small boxes) and has a subwoofer (the bigger one in the box), which is the bare minimum you need to actually hear the full sound range correctly. It's again not golden ears audio equipment by any means, I got it for 60 euro, years ago.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAlso, using quality recordings (high bitrate and/or lossless, or wav files copied straight from CD, or movies in their native language from DVD/Bluray) matters. As again if your media sucks at the source all the hardware you have can't save it.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostNote that this is the "bottom floor" audio setup. Aka most people should be able to hear a difference at this point (or actually care). If you don't notice anything significant at this stage, then you won't probably notice much even going in the high end (which is significantly more expensive but still realistic), an you most definitely won't notice the audiophile-grade bs like "directional copper cables" and "cable elevators" to keep the cable from touching the ground and so on.
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Originally posted by tildearrow View PostNote that I just don't want "sound'. I need low latency.
USB audio interfaces tend to add a small amount of latency...
I can't tell the difference in latency from a Xonar U7 and the onboard audio, while I sure can tell that the USB Logitech headsets I use at work have awful latency (which isn't terribly relevant for their usecase to be honest).
Theoretically the Xonar U7 supports ASIO protocol which is the "low latency" protocol for sound, but I'm not aware of ASIO protocol on Linux because of patents and licenses.
I can also tell the bluetooth (standard media stream) latency. Yes BT also has a low latency media stream mode but I rarely care about quality for bluetooth devices.
Although, nothing gold-plated? What is so bad about gold?
An example is the gold-plating of many connectors where it's completely irrelevant (like the external shielding), even on optical cables where the metal is just mechanical support.
I have actually used a DJ controller as an audio interface, and indeed, the audio quality was higher, and the thermal hum was absent.
I'm just pointing out that Conexant sound chips are the low-end and usually on the crappy side, as far as hardware goes, which is a fact. Any random Xonar PCI or PCIe or USB sound card will outperform them.
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Originally posted by intelfx View PostNo, nobody cares about size and amount of library and runtime dependencies (except maybe Slackware and Gentoo users, but that's on them for choosing a terrible distro). The only metric that matters is amount of unique SLOC needed to achieve a task.
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Originally posted by intelfx View PostNo, nobody cares about size and amount of library and runtime dependencies (except maybe Slackware and Gentoo users, but that's on them for choosing a terrible distro). The only metric that matters is amount of unique SLOC needed to achieve a task.
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