Corsair Force MP600 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD Benchmarks On Linux

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  • stormcrow
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    Originally posted by Space Heater View Post
    For computers that support firmware updates on Linux you can look here: https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devicelist
    No, that doesn't mean the companies on that list support firmware updates on Linux. They support firmware encapsulation which is an entirely different beast. It's platform agnostic because it's using the board's firmware to update itself. The update program puts the capsule in a place the firmware will recognize. It then tells the firmware to update on next re/boot. This is what Microsoft is pushing as a safe way to update firmware because there's no guarruntees that Windows can do the job properly as it's not a single user, single task environment like MSDOS was.

    Notably Dell and Lenovo business laptops and desktops support firmware updates on Linux.
    Yes, they do, notably because encapsulation allows them to more easily support multiple environments. It's not because of any great fondness of Linux, however. Enough of their business clients want Linux laptops to support their RHEL running Lenovo ThinkServer and Dell Poweredge servers and writing server applications to make it financially worthwhile.

    It's certainly logical and proper to support the companies that create platform agnostic methods of firmware, but not necessarily because they ostensibly support Linux. Rather, the reason is because using Linux, Windows, *BSD, etc is the wrong level to be updating board firmware to begin with. It should be done at the UEFI level, or at the very most a single task OS where the likelihood of race conditions and other shenanagans are remote.

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  • andrei_me
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    I wonder if Optane is bottlenecked by PCIe3 and would see a similar perf improvement using PCIe4

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by frant.hartm View Post
    Also the comparison to 256/512 GB models is not entirely valid, 1/2 TB models are faster in some scenarios. Also would love to see Samsung EVO Plus 2 TB in this benchmark.
    Testing was done with what I had. Unfortunately Samsung and most other vendors don't send out review samples to me for Linux testing and thus for my purposes end up usually buying the smaller/cheaper models.

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  • Space Heater
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    Originally posted by josh_walrath View Post
    Same with everything with a firmware, AFAIK. It's not an easy life in the Linux ghetto, but it's what I signed up for.
    You're just wrong though.
    Crucial, Intel, Samsung, Mushkin, Plextor, OCZ/Toshiba, and Sandisk provide os-agnostic SSD firmware updates.
    Choosing Corsair or some other vendor is actively voting that you do not care about Linux/non-Windows support.

    For computers that support firmware updates on Linux you can look here: https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devicelist
    Notably Dell and Lenovo business laptops and desktops support firmware updates on Linux.

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  • sonnet
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    Originally posted by L_A_G View Post
    Damn... I expected there to be a decent size jump upwards from PCIe 3.0 drives, but that's considerably better than what I expected.
    I'm sorry to say that I wouldn't trust much those results.
    tbh I don't trust them at all since the results are pretty much incoherent.

    The Samsung 970 pro shouldn't be slower in any test compared to the Samsung 860.
    And there should be much difference (in favor of the 970 pro)between those 2 compared to what there could be between a pcie 4.0 and the 970 pro.
    Also Optane ...? It should win nearly every test.

    PCIe 4.0 drives have been tested already against PCIe 3.0. While the difference in speed is noticeable in certain cases,
    it's really not a game-changer, generally speaking,

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  • josh_walrath
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    Originally posted by Anty View Post

    Samsung PM1633a - 15TB for humble $10k
    $0.67/GB, wtf. :C Just take a cheap SSD and solder more smol flash chips to the board!


    Originally posted by Space Heater View Post
    Corsair does not provide any method to update their products' firmware without using Windows - they don't even provide an operating system agnostic firmware update iso.

    Don't support companies that refuse to support your use case.
    Same with the Logitech G933 wireless headset. But there's no better wireless headset. Same with everything with a firmware, AFAIK. It's not an easy life in the Linux ghetto, but it's what I signed up for.

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  • edwaleni
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    Stick that Corsair in your Talos POWER9 box. It has PCIe v4.

    Just use a slot to M.2 adapter.

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  • frant.hartm
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    Couple of questions.

    did you put the SSDs into CPU or chipset M.2 port? Would be interesting to see if there is any difference

    Is it possible to measure the write speed (both sequential and random) over time? Most SSDs start quick but decrease after filling cache, dropping speed to half or more, the Samsung PRO models don't suffer from this so much.

    Also the comparison to 256/512 GB models is not entirely valid, 1/2 TB models are faster in some scenarios. Also would love to see Samsung EVO Plus 2 TB in this benchmark.

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  • AndyChow
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    Intel made a big deal of claiming that PCIe 4 was useless. Sure, for GPU side it pretty much is at this point, but for storage it clearly isn't.

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  • L_A_G
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    Damn... I expected there to be a decent size jump upwards from PCIe 3.0 drives, but that's considerably better than what I expected.

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