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  • #21
    Originally posted by Yndoendo View Post

    I was able to upgrade the firmware on my MX200 with Linux.
    I think you are confusing Crucial and Corsair. Crucial is one of the companies that does support bootable firmware update ISOs.

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    • #22
      Interesting. Windows benchmarks showed nothing serious improvement-wise for this SSD... in many benchmarks it was lagging the old mp510...

      Linux seems to perform faaar better.

      And a correction: "The MP600 2TB costs around $450 USD while the Optane 900p 280GB costs $250 USD, but there is also the nearly four times greater storage capacity with the Corsair SSD." ....should write ~7 times greater storage.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by _Alex_ View Post
        Linux seems to perform faaar better.
        I used to work for a large enterprise SAN vendor, and Linux consistently outperformed Windows in storage benchmarks on identical hardware, sometimes by a quite a lot. The Windows storage subsystem just sucks.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
          I used to work for a large enterprise SAN vendor, and Linux consistently outperformed Windows in storage benchmarks on identical hardware, sometimes by a quite a lot. The Windows storage subsystem just sucks.
          Yeah that's a known performance deficit for windows but it doesn't explain why the nvme on pci-e 4.0 would suck more on win compared to linux... that's what's troubling me.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by _Alex_ View Post
            Yeah that's a known performance deficit for windows but it doesn't explain why the nvme on pci-e 4.0 would suck more on win compared to linux... that's what's troubling me.
            For my money it's Spectre/Meltdown. In my observation Windows' IO has become signifficantly slower during the last year. My machine was able to delete big file trees with about 2000 files/sec for SATA SSDs and 3000 files/sec for NVMe SSD. Now it fluctuates big time and goes down to the lower tens (10-20-30) at times while never shooting above 1000. Tested on several different system. I have no other explanation for that. It makes no sense that an NVMe SSDs should be slower than an HDD.

            So it boils down to (1) probably less efficient implementation of mitigations and (2) enabling more mitigations than necessary. Do you think Windows only enables the mitigations appropriate for the CPU, like disabling Meltdown and some of the Spectre mitigations when run on AMD CPUs? Well, that might actually be the case but I doubt it. Windows is shite! A steaming pile of.

            Also, as far as I know, Windows requires more context switches for file I/O so the mitigations would have larger implact.

            BTW, I'm not an authority on these issues.So take my post with a grain of salt. I would realy like to hear more from people whether Windows has become slower over the last year or so. I routinely delete deeply nested directories with hundreds of thousands of files in total in them. And the performance for that kind of operations has fallen off a cliff.

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            • #26
              Something I would like to see in a storage device test (not so easy to automate, I admit) is to see if it will eat your data on power loss.

              Like this guy is testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHIld3cjmTM&t=11m13s

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              • #27
                The benchmarks seem a bit biased towards workflows where NAND works best and where this drive will actually do best.
                Who cares about Sequential Writes of huge files?

                Show us how it performs on small 4KB-64KB file READS - actual relevant data to users(the OS and software mostly interacts with small files).

                Looks like Phoronix attempted to show this drive in a good light(don't get me wrong, it's good, but Phoronix showed only benchmarks where it would do best).

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                • #28
                  The MP600 2TB costs around $450 USD while the Optane 900p 280GB costs $250 USD, but there is also the nearly four times greater storage capacity with the Corsair SSD.
                  Something's wrong with this math. Either compare the 1TB at $250 and 4x capacity, or the 2TB at $450 and 8x capacity.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by _Alex_ View Post
                    Interesting. Windows benchmarks showed nothing serious improvement-wise for this SSD... in many benchmarks it was lagging the old mp510...

                    Linux seems to perform faaar better.

                    And a correction: "The MP600 2TB costs around $450 USD while the Optane 900p 280GB costs $250 USD, but there is also the nearly four times greater storage capacity with the Corsair SSD." ....should write ~7 times greater storage.
                    "In many benchmarks"

                    You mean in the one singular review by guru3d that everyone is writing about? Sorry but the MP510 beating the MP600 is enough to call guru3d's review into question and I'm not going to trust those results until they're validated by other reviewers. Although more than anything I'm waiting on Anandtech's review of it because if there is a performance deficit (which there shouldn't be) they'll actually end up highlighting where the factor actually lies rather than just running a bunch of random benchmarks.

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                    • #30
                      Many benchmarks, I mean the various sub-benchmarks that comprise the review.

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