If someone just put an NVIDIA Xavier in a laptop form factor, I'd buy that.
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Originally posted by wizard69 View PostLots of good reasons frankly. For one your performance per watt is excellent.
You have a significant advantage in cores available.
Frankly im not sure why you wouldn’t want an ARM based machine. ARM is pretty much the future of computing. As a developer it is hard to beat cores.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostYou enjoy using Ubuntu LTS until the end of time?
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Sigh. This will not be a good experience for power users. The only way this works is if you ship with some system like ChromeOS, Android etc. which ship with closed source drivers. You're stuck with those closed source drivers, forever. Which means you're stuck with old kernel versions and closed source userspace that will not support aomethsom you'll need in the future.
If you want to just use a device as a consumer, without the ability to do any useful tinkering.
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Originally posted by sandy8925 View PostSigh. This will not be a good experience for power users. The only way this works is if you ship with some system like ChromeOS, Android etc. which ship with closed source drivers.
Decent SoCs from that ranges have a bunch of PCIe lanes, Sata and USB 3.0 controllers, and Vivante GPUs for those that need to drive a screen, that work fine on Linux. They may not be able to actually fill more than a mini-itx board, but it's enough for most.
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starshipeleven - That's not enough. You need open source GPU, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera drivers. High quality ones like Intel's. I admire the reverse engineering efforts of various people, but has anyone been able to run stable systems with all features enabled? As far as I know, this hasn't happened yet.
So no, none of the ARM systems are usable from a GNU/Linux distro point of view. Until the driver situation changes, they're only going to be good if you're a plain consumer and don't care about tinkering with your system.
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Originally posted by sandy8925 View Poststarshipeleven - That's not enough. You need open source GPU, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera drivers.
If you are making a laptop or even a desktop you have better choice.
Midrange networking an industrial SoCs like the ones I mentioned don't even have wifi and bluetooth integrated so it will be functionality provided by a M.2 card just like in a laptop, and even if they do have a camera controller you can just not give a shit about it and use a UVC camera/mic (i.e. standard driver webcam) on USB bus like every laptop does for its own internal camera.
As for the GPU, Vivante GPU used in iMX8 from FXP and Armada lineup with a GPU from Marvell has open drivers (etnaviv), plus they can mount AMD gpus on PCIe (either embedded for laptops or on a PCIe slot for a desktop), and they will work fine as the open driver works on any architecture.Last edited by starshipeleven; 05 March 2019, 11:09 AM.
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