1. Computers
  2. Display Drivers
  3. Graphics Cards
  4. Memory
  5. Motherboards
  6. Processors
  7. Software
  8. Storage
  9. Operating Systems


Facebook RSS Twitter Twitter Google Plus


Phoronix Test Suite

OpenBenchmarking.org

GCC & LLVM Developers May Begin Collaborating

Compiler

Published on 08 February 2014 06:24 AM EST
Written by Michael Larabel in Compiler
27 Comments

As an interesting turn of events after Richard Stallman called LLVM a "terrible setback" and the discussion that ensued, it turns out that the GCC and LLVM/Clang developers might start to better collaborate under some sort of open-source compiler initiative.

Renato Golin of Linaro volleyed an interesting message to the GCC mailing list on Friday about "LLVM collaboration?" While controversial, he suggested LLVM and GCC developers begin collaborating due to an "unnecessary fence" between the competing compilers and decisions that need to be shared. He acknowledges while there's licensing differences (GPL vs. UIUC / BSD) there's differences between the compilers and their stacks that really shouldn't exist as it hinders the users and developers.

Renato makes known the fact that developers begin relying upon one compiler but then hit roadblocks when trying to compile against the competing compiler for extensions and other changes that are developed in the olpen. He says that there's "decisions that NEED to be shared" when it comes to compiler extensions and other non-standard or undocumented features.

Towards the end of his remarks, Renato Golin says, "For the last year or two, Clang and GCC are approaching an asymptote as to what people believe a toolchain should be, but we won't converge to the same solution unless we talk. If we keep our ideas enclosed inside our own communities, we'll forever fly around the expected target and never reach it. To solve the technical problem of duplicated work we just need to start talking to each other."

Interestingly, this didn't turn into a GCC vs. LLVM flame fest or GPL vs. BSD, but there are developers on both sides of the table interested in better cooperating and proving standards even though they may have their fundamental differences. At the GNU Cauldron 2014 in Cambridge (England) this summer it looks like there may be a GCC + LLVM discussion which some are already calling the "The Open Source Compiler Initiative."

So far the responses to the aforelinked mailing list thread are in support of better cooperation, we will keep monitoring the discussion to see if anything else of interest emerges.

About The Author
Michael Larabel is the principal author of Phoronix.com and founded the web-site in 2004 with a focus on enriching the Linux hardware experience and being the largest web-site devoted to Linux hardware reviews, particularly for products relevant to Linux gamers and enthusiasts but also commonly reviewing servers/workstations and embedded Linux devices. Michael has written more than 10,000 articles covering the state of Linux hardware support, Linux performance, graphics hardware drivers, and other topics. Michael is also the lead developer of the Phoronix Test Suite, Phoromatic, and OpenBenchmarking.org automated testing software. He can be followed via and or contacted via .
Latest Linux Hardware Reviews
  1. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980: The Best GPU For Linux Gamers
  2. ROCCAT LUA: A Linux-Friendly Gaming Mouse
  3. Cheetah Mounts: The Affordable Way To Put Your TV On The Wall
  4. Scythe Mugen MAX
Latest Linux Articles
  1. Preview: Radeon Gallium3D Performance For CS:GO On Linux
  2. XWayland Linux Gaming Performance With GNOME Wayland On Fedora 21
  3. EXT4/Btrfs/XFS/F2FS Benchmarks On Linux 3.17
  4. Fedora 21 Alpha First Impressions: It's Great
Latest Linux News
  1. Microsoft Announces... Windows 10 With A Start Menu
  2. Borderlands 2 Launches On Steam For Linux
  3. Debian Jessie Might Get Rid Of The kFreeBSD Port
  4. Fedora Might Try A New Scheduling Strategy For Its Releases
  5. AMD's Catalyst Working On A GLSL Shader Cache
  6. OpenMP 4.0 Offloading Is Closer For GCC 5
  7. Wayland Presentation Extension Added To Weston
  8. Intel Skylake Support Rolls Out To Mesa's DRM
  9. VA-API's Libva 1.4.0 Brings VP8 Encoding Support
  10. Operating System U Fails To Live Up To Its Goals
Latest Forum Discussions
  1. Updated and Optimized Ubuntu Free Graphics Drivers
  2. X.Org Women Outreach Program Only Turns Up Two Applicants So Far
  3. FSF Issues Statement On Shellshock Bash Vulnerability
  4. Advertisements On Phoronix
  5. NVIDIA Alerts Nouveau: They're Starting To Sign/Validate GPU Firmware Images
  6. New AMD Catalyst drivers out today
  7. Take the Steam Survey results with a grain of salt. It is flawed.
  8. AMD Wants To Know What's Wrong With Catalyst