Phoronix IRC Log: 2010-08-01
wao: ups sry
FliPPeh_: IRSSI \o/
Hertta: Client of the future! \o/
Daekdroom: Don't you mean past.. It's CLI, y'know.
Hertta: But but.. I consider it to be superior.
FliPPeh_: Who said the CLI is a thing of the past?
FliPPeh_: I couldn't find enough GUI programs to replace my CLI
FliPPeh_: grep something somefile
Daekdroom: Hertta, I never said CLI is inferior to GUI.
Daekdroom: and CLI came up before GUI. That's what I meant, FliPPeh_
Daekdroom: See.. being newer doesn't mean better.
Daekdroom: points to iPod
FliPPeh_: I'm way more productive in a text based environment
FliPPeh_: No need to click your way though thousands of dialogs
FliPPeh_: And don't get me started on iPods!
FliPPeh_: You're a paster!
FliPPeh_: Classic song by the way
wao: yep, new remake
wao: i had pressed esc
wao: and when I pasted link, this is window number binded to 'h' letter
wao: so, answer for spooky bad paste .)
FliPPeh_: I've seen worse pastes
FliPPeh_: Like someone who accidentally pasted nude pictures of his girlfriend
FliPPeh_: 135 people in the channel, 134 people were happy
FliPPeh_: She was hot, too!
wao: hotter then never before, when she heard this story
FliPPeh_: I really hope she didn't ever hear of that
FliPPeh_: But maybe that's why I've never seen that guy again
Hertta: url or didn't happen ;)
FliPPeh_: Was quite some time ago :(
giselher: Hoy, I learning C at the moment, can somenone tell me what is wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/qfbt2WH8
giselher: The while never ends, I think
giselher: sh*t, now I see it :(
FliPPeh_: TABSTP = ?
Azerthoth: giselher, a good idea might be stopping in to the C channels, ##C has 449 people ##c++ has 633
FliPPeh_: I do not recommend either ##c or ##c++
FliPPeh_: You'll find 4% helpful people and 96% jerks
FliPPeh_: When I asked in ##c++ how do make my socket code less C'ish, I only got "you're stupid, use boost"
Hertta: Well, it is stupid not to use boost. :)
FliPPeh_: For all programming related questions I go to Stackoverflow
FliPPeh_: I don't want boost
Hertta: How come?
FliPPeh_: For MY own projects I set my own guidelines
FliPPeh_: And those are: For learning purposes, do stuff yourself
FliPPeh_: Also, I try to minimize dependencies
Azerthoth: if you want to learn shortcuts, learn them after you learn the way it should be done
FliPPeh_: But I think it's also part of my NIH-attitude
giselher: thanks for the responses, I will look at stackoverflow the next time :)
FliPPeh_: I only use libraries when I can't possible avoid it
FliPPeh_: Like SQLite, GTK, Qt
FliPPeh_: It's bad. I should lay off that habit :)
FliPPeh_: And stackoverflow is really awesome
Daekdroom: I wouldn't mind having extra dependencies if I expected to find them on most systems
Daekdroom: however, if they are bulky dependencies that not everybody use.. >.>
FliPPeh_: And boost is about 110 MB
FliPPeh_: Oh wait
FliPPeh_: That's the development libraries
FliPPeh_: The runtime is about 20
Daekdroom: sounds quite a lot, depending on how big your project is.
FliPPeh_: In any case, way too much just for a good socket libarey
FliPPeh_: If it was for money, I'd just not care and pick what works
FliPPeh_: But as long as I do it for myself, I'll watch my resources as much as possible
Daekdroom: This is usually the part where the person works on their own implementation of something and then fork a lib out of it.
FliPPeh_: For my IRC bot I forked out a small IRC library
FliPPeh_: Real small, like irc_init, irc_free, irc_set_realname, ..., irc_connect
FliPPeh_: Seeing that, I should get into OOP
Daekdroom: Compiling mesa takes quite awhile >.<
FliPPeh_: Why are you compiling mesa? ;o
Daekdroom: FliPPeh_, r300g dri driver
Daekdroom: Xorg-edgers screws my drm.
Daekdroom: and I don't need bleeding-edge X.org, just the driver :|
FliPPeh_: Bleeding edge is what I crave for :)
FliPPeh_: Wait what
FliPPeh_: Wine 1.3?
Azerthoth: meh, wine svn, I just update twice a week
FliPPeh_: Twice a day :x
FliPPeh_: Nah, probably daily -Syu on Arch
Azerthoth: emerge wine
FliPPeh: I wonder... if a GUI gets updated, but noone is there to see it, does it get rendered?
FliPPeh: If it's minimized for example ;o
Daekdroom: FliPPeh, depends on the window manager
Daekdroom: FliPPeh, gtk-window-decorator and metacity don't render it again. kwin does..
FliPPeh: Do you know what Openbox does?
Daekdroom: No clue.
dandel: I'm needing a bit of help creating a working test system for pts. (it's mainly parsing the log)