Phoronix IRC Log: 2010-07-17
homecable: whats the best linux os like debian or gentoo or what ever for gaming
Azerthoth: debianistas will say debian, gentards (I am one) will say gentoo, ubuntites will say `whats linux?!?`
Azerthoth: basicly the one that works best for you is the best one
Hertta: Hello, homecable.
christian_lappy: heya guys
christian_lappy: is the steam linux link stil reachable and access denied ?
homecable: christian_lappy WHAT OS U USEING
homecable: gentoo or what
christian_lappy: gentoo and ubuntu
christian_lappy: gentoo on my pc, u 10.04 on my lappy
christian_lappy: why are u saking ?
homecable: can i pm u about gentoo
homecable: wanting to get a gentoo desktop up
christian_lappy: simply ask now
christian_lappy: you will need some time to get that up
homecable: for gaming etc playing moives mp3s i have aq8300 2,5ghz cpu 8 gigs of ram
homecable: i been using debian based linux
homecable: but want gentoo now
homecable: just dont know what use flags
homecable: to use
christian_lappy: that was my problem at first also
christian_lappy: do you mean for your cpu ?
Hertta: homecable: Why exactly gentoo? Is there some particular reason why you want gentoo for gaming?
homecable: like get my make.conf under control
homecable: well id like to have desktop that doesnt load alot of procs
homecable: or any bloatware
homecable: unbuntu is ok but it installs alot of stuff
christian_lappy: yes, it does
homecable: stuff that i dont want
homecable: gentoo lets u pick what u want
homecable: with out all the other stuff being installed
Hertta: But you know, Gentoo is rolling-release distro, and once you go rolling-release, you will never look back. Trust me. :p
christian_lappy: it does..but for desktop env younstill need a lot of things ;-)
homecable: i just want firefox with flash player and video player mp3 player and a torrnt downloader
Hertta: You could also install ubuntu with fluxbox, or try xubuntu. Should make things easy enough.
homecable: and i can install games with any sweet
homecable: with out*
Tallken: I like rice too :)
giselher: is there a performance boost if you start TF2 with -gl instead of -dxlevel 80?
michaellarabel: Good news, there's going to be a GeForce GTX 460 Linux review.
Gnurdux: michaellarabel, why not an article about why you keep claiming there will be steam on Linux?
Gnurdux: at least clarifying to what extent you have extra information and to what extent you are making educated guesses
monreal: ha, +1
Gnurdux: like, i assume that for the former you are under some NDA, but if you can talk about it to the extent that you can, can you at least say "I have some NDA'd info that makes me think..."
FliPPeh: giselher: Does TF2 even recognize "-gl"?
FliPPeh: I assume it's DirectX only
FliPPeh: But it shouldn't HAVE OpenGL
FliPPeh: Unless they somehow merged the Windows and Mac engines
giselher: I guess it is the same for both
giselher: you could try it that way, I don't have tf2
FliPPeh: I'll try later
FliPPeh: When did Amazon start signing email?
FliPPeh: Mutt says it's PGÜ signed
giselher: checks amazon emails
FliPPeh: It's only one of many mails
giselher: mine from 13th are not signed
FliPPeh: A refund
FliPPeh: Wine 1.2 released
FliPPeh: Not yet in my repo :(
FliPPeh: Pacman thinks I'm downgrading.
FliPPeh: wine 1.2_rc5 -> wine 1.2
giselher: you missed the rc7
FliPPeh: I didn't miss it :(
FliPPeh: arch-games didn't have it
FliPPeh: And I couldn't compile it myself
FliPPeh: Because my GCC isn't set up for compiling 32 bit programs
FliPPeh: And it wouldn't have been worth the trouble
giselher: I use wine from extra and there was a rc7
FliPPeh: Arch Linux 32 bit?
FliPPeh: Because Arch64 didn't even HAVE it in it's mirrors until recently
FliPPeh: It surprised me to find "bin32-wine" in my community repo
giselher: yes 32bit
FliPPeh: I always had to get wine from AUR or arch-games
RambJoe: how can i have quotes in quotes
RambJoe: \ doesn't do anything
FliPPeh: "hi "hi""
FliPPeh: RambJoe: Langauge?
RambJoe: linux bash
FliPPeh: $ echo "Hello \"World\"" (17:18:52)
FliPPeh: Hello "World"
FliPPeh: Works like a charm
FliPPeh: Then again, I'm using ZSH
FliPPeh: But that shouldn't matter
giselher: <3 zsh
FliPPeh: RambJoe: Are you trying to use single quotes?
FliPPeh: ' ' ?
RambJoe: bash -c "date +%s > /tmp/time.txt; echo $(cat /tmp/time.txt); import -window $(xwininfo |grep 'Window id:' |cut -d\" \" -f4) /media/15/pictures/screenshots/screenshot-$(cat /tmp/time.txt).png"
FliPPeh: Because backslashes aren't processed in single quotes
Daekdroom: ooo some phoronix news on r600g
FliPPeh: What's it?
Daekdroom: The news is.. that there's barely any work on it
FliPPeh: Great news
RambJoe: what does bash -c actually do
FliPPeh: -c string If the -c option is present, then commands are read from
FliPPeh: string. If there are arguments after the string, they are
FliPPeh: assigned to the positional parameters, starting with $0.
RambJoe: wierd thing is the script works in the terminal
RambJoe: but not when its a shortcut on openbox
FliPPeh: Openbox tries to parse it.
FliPPeh: I'd put that into a file
RambJoe: unexpected eof while looking for matching ')'
FliPPeh: And just calls "bash "
RambJoe: oh yeah
FliPPeh: That's how I start steam from openbox
FliPPeh: import -window $(xwininfo |g
FliPPeh: There you go
FliPPeh: Waht does that script do anyways?
RambJoe: um the one i sent up there takes a screenshot of a selected window
FliPPeh: Oh wait
RambJoe: and i have others that upload it
FliPPeh: scrot -s
FliPPeh: That does the trick
FliPPeh: Simply use "scrot" and all is well
RambJoe: does that take a screenshot of just the window then?
FliPPeh: Also works for area selection, window select with or without decoration, full screen, blah
RambJoe: oh cool thanks :)
FliPPeh: I use scrot for all my shots ;o
FliPPeh: scrot -s -b = window without decoration
FliPPeh: scrot -s = window or area with decoration
RambJoe: http://i.imgur.com/W7lWA.png :)
RambJoe: wait there's pink dots all over that picture
christian_lappy: michaellarabel: hi
RambJoe: look at all these artifacts :(
Daekdroom: Uh oh.
Daekdroom: For a moment I thought it was my computer o.O
RambJoe: is that graphics card or cpu
FliPPeh: It's fun how everyone thinks Valve wouldn't under any circumstances care about that WINE bug
FliPPeh: Yet Robin Walker proved me wrong :)
Daekdroom: Which WINE bug?
FliPPeh: Well, not actually WINE bug, but a regression of TF2 on WINE
Daekdroom: Good lord, I have to learn how to use a gnome panel that's not clutered :|
Daekdroom: attempts to stick to an "almost" default panel setup
RambJoe: how much ram would gnome-panel or something use
RambJoe: on opnebox
Daekdroom: It uses 5,6MB here, but you should also take in consideration the GTK+ libs.
Daekdroom: However, that should not be a problem if you're used to GTK apps, because they'll end up sharing..
RambJoe: yeah most my stuff is gtk i think
Daekdroom: GTK+ isn't even the most bloaty thing about GNOME
RambJoe: why is gnome so bloated
Daekdroom: I remember running E-17 with gnome-session-daemon and nautilus, and it spent half as much RAM than standard GNOME xD
RambJoe: is there any panel like gnome
RambJoe: which doesnt have to use a gtk theme
RambJoe: that you can customize a lot
RambJoe: gonna set up xfce4 now
FliPPeh: Just found out about the Avatar movie... I hate the anime that it's probably based on
FliPPeh: But god damn, that's an awesome trailer
RambJoe: do you know how to make the xfce bar have
RambJoe: applications etc
RambJoe: instead of the xfce button, so its like gnome pane
FliPPeh: If you want the gnome panel.........
FliPPeh: use that!
RambJoe: oh yeaht hey both use gtk
RambJoe: i have a good gtk theme for it now (ubuntu one) so ima use that
h4emp3: there is a packet named xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
RambJoe: bye bye xfce
RambJoe: oh cool thanks
h4emp3: with that you can use gnome-applets in the xfce-panel
Daekdroom: FliPPeh, The Last Airbender was considered an awful movie.
Daekdroom: And that's exactly why I haven't watched it, yet :P
FliPPeh: I only saw the trailer
FliPPeh: The "mystical" one
FliPPeh: Now that I've seen the other ones...
FliPPeh: Not gonna watch it
FliPPeh: I just came from the cinema, had to watch twilight.
FliPPeh: Girlfriends, you know
h4emp3: but... twilight?
FliPPeh: Actually, the third part of twilight wasn't as bad
FliPPeh: Some epic fightings there
FliPPeh: But all the romance and dancing around each other... can't identify with that
Daekdroom: Blah. You can't even get twitter to follow a person through gwibber.
RambJoe: gnome-panel is more ugly on openbox
FliPPeh: That gnome thingy?
RambJoe: the fuck
FliPPeh: Once you start loving Openbox there's no turning back
FliPPeh: Believe me. I tried.
FliPPeh: Neither KDE nor GNOME could fit me
RambJoe: do you use it then
FliPPeh: LEt alone Xfce or LXDE
h4emp3: but if you get to awesome, everything else seems to be crap ;)
FliPPeh: Awesome is my tiling WM of choice
FliPPeh: IF I use tiling
FliPPeh: But tiling isn't for me :)
FliPPeh: I'm a spoiled ex-windows user
Daekdroom: So, does anyone else know a decent twitter client? :|
FliPPeh: I'm a purist, sorry
Daekdroom: takes a deep breath
h4emp3: bitlbee with twitter support ;)
FliPPeh: Also, there's TTYter
FliPPeh: Command line client :)
FliPPeh: Like bash basically
RambJoe: hmm gnome panel or tint2
RambJoe: wow themes are so easy to modidy on openbox
FliPPeh: So is tint2
FliPPeh: I can completly match both applications to my overall theme
RambJoe: hmm haven't tried changing tint2
FliPPeh: There's a nice program
RambJoe: cant see it in aur or repos
RambJoe: wait i already had that lol
RambJoe: open source
RambJoe: could that be ported to linux?
FliPPeh: Where does it say open source?
FliPPeh: It says the codebase will be released
FliPPeh: Not the code
FliPPeh: Probably as a library
FliPPeh: "Jackass - The movie" seriously! on TV!
FliPPeh: I feel young again.
FliPPeh: good times.
FliPPeh: Why do Mac people insist on "IM A MAC YOUR A PC"
FliPPeh: Too stupid to accept they're just using an overpriced OS on overpriced hardware on a regular, non-holy x86 processor
FliPPeh: What a cute little furball
FliPPeh: More like...
Daekdroom: Exactly what I thought..
Daekdroom: But those needles don't look a lot like needles..
FliPPeh: I wondered why they'd use leather gloves
FliPPeh: But then I researched what "Porcupine" meant in my language :D
FliPPeh: It doesn't look like one to me :/
FliPPeh: More like a really furry Skunk
Daekdroom: Definitely not a skunk
FliPPeh: Then again, I'm no animal expert when it comes to rodents
FliPPeh: But that one was really cute
FliPPeh: ... woudln't wanna cuddle it for obvious reasons
FliPPeh: Porcupines are rodents :(
Daekdroom: Don't look like o.o
FliPPeh: According to wikipedia.
FliPPeh: I love how Windows can be infected by any damn removable medium