Phoronix IRC Log: 2010-06-30

FliPPeh: Oh my god
FliPPeh: I dreamed in ASCII today
FliPPeh: WAAAAYYYY too much nethack
giselher: I had a dream in which I downgraded my system with 'pacman -Suy'
FliPPeh: Nice one giselher :)
GNU\colossus: I had a dream in which I was forced to use arch. Gladly, I managed to wake up several hours later with no harm being done.
FliPPeh: Hey, don't hate!
FliPPeh: Arch needs love
FliPPeh: pets his Pacman v3.4.0
giselher: Deltas are the best, 6mb download, 100mb install :D
FliPPeh: Anyone else playing TF2 with wine noticing a big slowdown when playing for a while?
FliPPeh: Boo
FliPPeh: Razercfg crashes
FliPPeh: Any razer mouse user here?
FliPPeh: ll
FliPPeh: lol!
FliPPeh: Our government is so hilarious
FliPPeh: A candidate for president gets 494 out of 12xx votes and they've been clapping for 2 minutes now
FliPPeh: Aaand wikipedia has been updated withing 3 seconds of the result being annoucned
Sir_Brizz: kde 4.5 is nice
Sir_Brizz: I only have one complaint
FliPPeh: I have yet to test it
Sir_Brizz: Kopete sucks at the new notification system
FliPPeh: Too lazy to install it
FliPPeh: new notification system?
Sir_Brizz: all of its stupid notifications get stuck in the notification queue
Sir_Brizz: they do that EVERY TIME they change the notification system
Sir_Brizz: yeah the popup things in the corner
FliPPeh: :/
FliPPeh: They've had these before
Sir_Brizz: http://static.arstechnica.com/kde45b_ars.png
Sir_Brizz: overall an improvement over past notifications
FliPPeh: oh nice
FliPPeh: Hmm
FliPPeh: I once used KDEMod
Sir_Brizz: the kopete ones just get stuck in there and literally fill it up with hundreds of messages
FliPPeh: It had taskbar transparency without me having to do anything
FliPPeh: How about doing this in vanilla KDE?
Sir_Brizz: yeah KWin has done that since 4.2 I think
thomashc: bbiab
FliPPeh: WHAT
tkmorris: KDE 4.5 tray icons improved
asraniel: kde 4.5 ftw!
Sir_Brizz: tkmorris: indeed, the tray icons are perfect
Sir_Brizz: much more professional
tkmorris: I thought they would be better of as plain black
tkmorris: but they are really awesome
Sir_Brizz: they should let you switch between white and black
Sir_Brizz: on really light backgrounds the white wouldn't look as good
Sir_Brizz: but the overall quality of the icons is so much better than in 4.4
Sir_Brizz: also, smooth tasks needs to be merged into the main plasma addons package
bicchi: is there a command line argument to PTS that can give me the hardware/software specs without having to run a benchmark first?
Sir_Brizz: post traumatic stress?
tkmorris: ok
tkmorris: oops, wrong channel xP
Daekdroom: What the hell happened to screenlets and gdesklets..
Daekdroom: I don't have any decent way to place gadgets on my desktop other than google's..
thomashc: Daekdroom, whatcha mean what happened to them?
Daekdroom: thomashc, they don't have a new release in quite awhile.
Daekdroom: And you barely hear about them anymore.
thomashc: Whoa, never noticed that
thomashc: :\
thomashc: though tbh....I never thought they were very good anyway
Daekdroom: Me neither.
Daekdroom: Screenlets was a RAM-eating monster.
Daekdroom: Gdesklets looked like Alpha software.
thomashc: yeah
thomashc: none were very integrated
thomashc: hmm...this makes me want to code
thomashc: more stuff
Daekdroom: Good lord. There's a Moonlight/Mono widget engine for Linux O.O
FliPPeh: I'd love to code something
FliPPeh: With sockets.
FliPPeh: but I gotta learn C++ already, and if I want to write socket stuff in C++ I end up writing C anyways!
thomashc: Daekdroom, link?
thomashc: I was thinking of doing something in PyGTK
Daekdroom: Hm.. False alarm
Daekdroom: Apparently, it's only the default Moonlight implementation that can run widgets.
Daekdroom: Which doesn't make it any better, but whatever.
thomashc: oh ok.
thomashc: hmm, something in PyGTK wouldn't be to hard
Daekdroom: Uhh... Ubuntu is too tightly integrated with Mono >.>
thomashc: danot really
thomashc: erm
thomashc: * Daekdroom not really
thomashc: besides
thomashc: mono is nice
FliPPeh: It's not
thomashc: Yes, it is.
FliPPeh: It's a project to port something that shouldn't be ported
thomashc: Why not?
FliPPeh: Because it's clearly made to be windows exclusive, even if it's deckared "portable"
FliPPeh: declared.
thomashc: It's just an implementation of C# and various other languages.
FliPPeh: If it wasn't, they could have just used Java.
thomashc: What if they don't like Java?
FliPPeh: They must have
FliPPeh: Because the beginning of C# was a 100% Java copy
thomashc: lol.
thomashc: whatabout the other languages
thomashc: ?
FliPPeh: The one's noone uses anyways?
FliPPeh: Except for ASP.
thomashc: meh
thomashc: personal preference.
mastertheknife: well there isnt a perfect language for the job
mastertheknife: but i think C\C++ (or C++ without the iostream and STL crap) are very good
Sleepy_Coder: Hmm I think C++ is getting better as the line between POD and ADTs skews further
Sleepy_Coder: But then again... it's only a hop skip and a leap away from being a scripting language like Perl.
Sleepy_Coder: hides
Sleepy_Coder: The line noise is comparible, don't tell me you didn't see it too :p
Daekdroom: I think there are far too many stuff out there already.
Daekdroom: Who needs more libs, languages, video/audio formats or whatever? :(
Daekdroom: Well, unless they deprecated anything that is actually useless..
dandel: 0o' i got a regression in 2.6.35-rc3+ that knocks out the built-in keyboard on my laptop, can a few people run tests to confirm this.

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