Phoronix IRC Log: 2010-06-22
skyhirider: anyone knows where the grub 0.97 boot menu options are saved? tried editing menu.lst but the changing them there have no effect
AdrianBroher: you mean the kernel parameters_
FliPPeh_: skyhirider: Do switch to grub2 :x
FliPPeh_: oh damn
FliPPeh_: I'm using 0.97, too
FliPPeh_: hides quickly
skyhirider: i mean i want to set the default root to (hdo,o) but it wont change even if i edit menu.lst
FliPPeh_: default root = preselected?
FliPPeh_: Or where grub resides?
skyhirider: grub is on my boot partition
skyhirider: but i have a hunch it may also be on my mbr, but i have no idea how to edit the parameters on the mbr
FliPPeh_: Ever looked into "man grub"?
FliPPeh_: There's bunch of things in there
FliPPeh_: Using grub you can edit some of it's fundamental settings
FliPPeh_: e.g. starting "grub" as command line and then issue "set root ..."
FliPPeh_: I once did that
FliPPeh_: "install (hd0,0)"
skyhirider: i did that too
skyhirider: whence i am where i am
skyhirider: installed it on my boot partition with the grub commands
skyhirider: my question is if use the commands to install it to the mbr, from where will it take the menu options
skyhirider: so if i edit menu.lst and then run setup (hd0) it will write the changed menu to the mbr?
FliPPeh_: It won't write the menu at all
FliPPeh_: It will never If I'm not wrong here
FliPPeh_: stage1 of grub lives on the MBR
FliPPeh_: It loads stage2
FliPPeh_: Which is on your boot
FliPPeh_: * /boot
FliPPeh_: And THAT loads the menu.lst
skyhirider: so stage1 will load from the mbr, and go to the /boot partition to load menu lst
FliPPeh_: Nah, go to stage2 which will load menu.lst
skyhirider: that is odd then, as the menu has no effect for me :/
FliPPeh_: What are you trying to do? :/
FliPPeh_: "Stage 1 does little more than load the next stage of GRUB (which may reside physically elsewhere on the disk). Stage 1 can load Stage 2 directly, or it can load stage 1.5. GRUB Stage 1.5 is located in the first 30 kilobytes of hard disk immediately following the MBR. Stage 1.5 loads Stage 2."
FliPPeh_: Hah, remembered correctly
FliPPeh_: And now I know what stage 1.5 was!
FliPPeh_: Oh, now I know where this noise is coming from
FliPPeh_: It's my freaking roof vibrating
FliPPeh_: Too much bass.
FliPPeh_: skyhirider: What setting are you trying to change?
skyhirider: just need to edit the boot menu to add a few new parameters that stay there after i reboot
FliPPeh_: Kernel parameters?
skyhirider: im trying to change root (hd1,0) to root (hd0,0)
FliPPeh_: Of an OS entry?
skyhirider: i changed it in menu.lst but when i boot it has the old settings
skyhirider: yeah, for an os entry
FliPPeh_: I always do change them there
skyhirider: it should work according to all the manuals on the net, thats why i am so puzzled
s_20: skyhirider: are you using grub2?
skyhirider: read that someone had the same problem and had to edit grub, conf but i cant find that file
s_20: or a beta/rc thereof
skyhirider: nope, good old grub from Debian Lenny
s_20: alright, that's weird then
FliPPeh_: Some program restoring it all the time.. shouldn't be
AdrianBroher: should be
FliPPeh_: Is it really using the menu.lst file?
s_20: FliPPeh_: actually, that's actually how it should be, you're not really supposed to edit it yourself in debian
FliPPeh_: Oww, debian, how you surprose me
AdrianBroher: you update the default settings and then run update-grub
FliPPeh_: Looks like we have a solution here
s_20: FliPPeh_: it's automatically generated from aother files
skyhirider: will try that just a sec
FliPPeh_: I don't like debian :(
skyhirider: not my choice of os, my employer wants it
AdrianBroher: "I don't understand debian" fix'd
skyhirider: heh :P
s_20: FliPPeh_: there's no other way to make it safe for other programs/package scripts to edit the grub configuration
FliPPeh_: Hey, at least your employer wants linux
FliPPeh_: That's a big plus anyways
s_20: if everyone was allowed to just change the file it'd be a big fucking mess
FliPPeh_: I like repairing mess
FliPPeh_: That's how I roll
skyhirider: well, try making a web server on windows...
skyhirider: well, arch is nice but unusable for a server
skyhirider: breaks too much
FliPPeh_: My server runs arch :x
s_20: FliPPeh_: if you have time for that.. whatever floats your boat.
FliPPeh_: It's stable
FliPPeh_: Shouldn't install everything from [testing], tho
skyhirider: well, from what i read it tends to break during bigger package updates
FliPPeh_: s_20: Still enough time.. things get rough in september, tho
FliPPeh_: Mostly gfx driver breaking here :x
FliPPeh_: Damn them adobe
skyhirider: well, update-grub didnt help
FliPPeh_: Have time to finish Flash 10.1 for Smartphones
FliPPeh_: But cancel x86_64 Linux
AdrianBroher: skyhirider, can you grop the output somewhere?
FliPPeh_: I didn't know GRUB could do that
FliPPeh_: Does anyone know a high quality PDF printing method for cups?
skyhirider: AdrianBroher: searching fur grub install dir.. found /boot/grub searching for default file.. found /boot/grub/default testing for an existing grub menu.lst ... found /boot/grub/menu.lst serarching for splash.. none found, skipping found kernel /vmlinuz-2.6... updating boot/grub/menu.lst... done
skyhirider: can raid somehow affect grub not updating properly?
AdrianBroher: afaik no
AdrianBroher: and your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
AdrianBroher: Are the default options properly set? because update grub overwrites the different os entries with these.
skyhirider: which default options exactly?
AdrianBroher: # kopts
AdrianBroher: # groot
skyhirider: i didnt change the default options there in any way, just changed root(hd1,0) to (hd0,0) so the default options should be fine
AdrianBroher: can you upload the menu.lst somewhere? pastebin or something like that?
skyhirider: AdrianBrother: http://22.214.171.124/menu.lst
AdrianBroher: hrm, memtest is enabled, but there is not entry for it. do you invoke update-grub with root?
skyhirider: yup, with root
skyhirider: hmm, during install i installed grub on my usb stick and then manually installed it on both /boot raid partitions, can it be that it thinks grub is still on the usb stick or something similar?
skyhirider: fixed it, it seems my raid array is not working as it should, booted a single hdd again and it had the old grub settings, jeez
FliPPeh_: Damn them RAIDs
skyhirider: my problem is now i have to rebuild the raid array that i thought was working, great
skyhirider: man, rebuilding raid arrays take forever
cmol: does anybody in here, play teamfortress 2 under wine on 64bit ubuntu? I'm having trouble getting the audio working
skyhirider: i tried running it and worked fine, but never really played more than a short testing stage
RambJoe: transmission 2 is out
GNU\colossus: no newsworthy features or changes though
AdrianBroher: did anyone run into the problem, that enabled hdr in hl2:ep2 flips the world? The weapon model and the hud are not affected by this problem.
skyhirider: any good, fast and non destructive way to check if raid is working?
FliPPeh_: See if it's not working, and if it's not not working, then it's working
skyhirider: there has to be a way to only read data from one disk without the need to manually plug one out from the motherboard, righ?
skyhirider: im still talking about that bloody raid that i spent half a day mangling with
skyhirider: just need to check if when write one file to my raid 1 partition it will write that said file to both physical disks, if it does that the raid obviously works
topfuelfone: Stop failing and try harder.
skyhirider: heh, thats helpful advice
FliPPeh_: You think that's helpful
FliPPeh_: Try asking something in #c or #c++
topfuelfone: Oic and you don't want to unplug one of the drives?
topfuelfone: Disable one of the drives in bios
skyhirider: and that wont break my raid array? because when i went on an unplug frenzy i had to resync my arrays and that takes too long to repeat again
skyhirider: hmm, i wonder, when i boot from the first disk and then from the second disk, it still keeps mirroring but the drive i read to and write should be reversed
vasudeva: what determines how many times test suites are run? i'd like to alter how many test runs, and how many trial runs, but i'm not finding an obvious way to do this.
MolbOrg: use source luk
vasudeva: ok, so i'm not just blind regarding documentation out there?
MolbOrg: not sure needs to read it first
djura-san: im off nerds. chat you some other day :)
RambJoe: anyone use xchat
Daekdroom: raises hand
RambJoe: how do you change the url handle order
RambJoe: like i want chrome to be default
Daekdroom: I think it's a configuration it grabs from the system.
RambJoe: First, it tries to run xdg-open, which is a universal URL handler from freedesktop.org. Most modern Linux desktops will have this now, or in the near future.
RambJoe: xdg-open opens in chrome
RambJoe: "Open URL in browser" opens in firefox
FliPPeh_: Copy'n'paste \o/