thomas001: hi, i hope this channel is the right place for such questions, whould you recommend an ati hd5xxx for a new intel i7 pc or are the drivers still worse than nvidia's drivers?
Ivanovic: so far there is no open source driver support with the hd5xxx cards
thomas001: hmm and what about the quality of the closed source drivers?
thomas001: at least there are specs for the hd5xxx?
Ivanovic: (the open source drivers are in general *really* nice though once you got them, working better for normal usage (2D stuff (desktop) and watching videos) than the closed ati drivers, no *real* 3d gaming so far though
Ivanovic: i don't know if the specs are already available, but they will most likely be made available (regarding the "normal" plans amd/ati has)
thomas001: so future open source driver support is likely to happen?
Ivanovic: very
thomas001: nice...and gaming with closed source drivers works well,too?
Ivanovic: which distribution are you using?
thomas001: currently fedora
Ivanovic: when i was using them it worked nicely, had not problem with eg etqw or all the likes on my hd3850
Ivanovic: with the open source drivers i can already play world of goo (sacred starts but is too slow to be usable)
thomas001: world of goo used 3d stuff?
Ivanovic: no idea regarding fedora support though keep in mind that fglrx seems to *not* work with >=xorg-server-1.7.*
Ivanovic: sure, world of goo uses opengl
thomas001: okay :)
thomas001: so is ati a better choice than nvidia?
Ivanovic: to be honest: i don't know
Ivanovic: it depends on stuff like "what will you do with the computer"
Ivanovic: if you intend to play lots of 3d games like, uhm, no idea, you will probably be better off with nvidia
Ivanovic: since you have to use proprietary drivers for a while for those needs anyway
thomas001: hmm,ok...thank you for your opinion :-)
Ivanovic: if you plan mainly on 2d stuff (like desktop usage) plus watching videos: going for amd/ati should be fine since you can "soon" use opensource drivers
glok: Hello, what's the most recent ATI card i could buy which would have 3d linux open support? I'm looking at radeonhd wiki but it says very little about 3d
Ivanovic: glok: all hd4xxx cards
Ivanovic: those are the latest that already have working 3d support using *latest* mesa and at least kernel 2.6.32
Ivanovic: nothing most distributions ship!
Ivanovic: (in general mesa 7.7 will have lots of the stuff, too, just 7.6.x is too old)
glok: Ivanovic, thanks, so i won't have 3d accel even if i install Debian unstable for the moment? I'm partial to Debian btw
Ivanovic: glok: unless they ship mesa-7.7-rcSOMETHING (final will be out next week): no 3D accell with r6xx and r7xx cards when using the open source drivers
matti: Anyone have eSATA cardbus adapter?