Phoronix IRC Log: 2009-11-12
dagger: thansen: I've got i7 laptop (sorry for late answer :p)
thansen: dagger: which one did you go with?
dagger: thansen: http://www.kobaltcomputers.co.uk/g860_overview.php with i7 X920
thansen: looks like the clevo...how does that 280M do in linux?
dagger: thansen: not bad, but crap nvidia drivers keep it FAR away from it's potential
dagger: thansen: it is clevo
thansen: dagger: do you use the 190x series of drivers?
dagger: thansen: powermizer - killer feature in nvidia drivers. Even with MAX_performance settings, it keeps clocks to around 1/4 :S
dagger: thansen: yes. The newest ones
thansen: I'm not a gamer or anything but I snagged up a laptop with the 230M and I'm wondering how it will be
dagger: thansen: Once ATI drivers improve, I'll get mobile 5xxx
thansen: wanted vdpau
dagger: I'm not a gamer either, but I want good CUDA performance
thansen: I want the sucker to be able to handle a composited destktop without thinking
dagger: I have to admit - LED screen in this clevo is awesome
thansen: yeah, mine doesn't have LED, which was something I wanted...I just couldn't pass it up though
dagger: LED Backlit is really worth it
dagger: on the side note - I didn't manage to get TurboBoost to work (yet?)
dagger: received this laptop just last week
thansen: I went with the hp dv8t quad
dagger: that's a big screen
dagger: if you have some extra few bucks - go with SSD. That really makes laptop fly
thansen: dagger: I went with 2x500 @ 7200 rpm
thansen: I'll software raid them up
dagger: thansen: yeah, that will work as well
thansen: got 8 gig ram, blu-ray rw, tv tuner, everything else shipped and taxes for under 2300
dagger: thansen: pretty much everything you might need :) It's pissing me off, that in US prices are so much cheaper :p
thansen: only thing I was worried about was the 230M...I would have been more comfortable with 250M at least
dagger: as long as it's MXM 3.0 you can change it latter on
thansen: may return it if something else comes out in the next couple months
thansen: I'm sure it's soldered on
dagger: that's why I like clevo ^^
thansen: yeah, I figure by the time I want to replace the video card I want to replace the whole thing
dagger: my last laptop lasted 2 years and I would gladly use it today, but had to replace it because of graphic card
redeeman: anyone that knows how i can make dhclient not set a default route?
thansen: I can't seem to find any info about the integrated tv tuner though..trying to find out if it'll be compatible with linux
dagger: redeeman: sorry, I didn't use dhclient in years - can't help you :S
redeeman: fucking dhclient :)
dagger: dhcpcd is so much nicer :)
redeeman: yeah, but debian doesn't like dhcpcd :P
redeeman: now the thing is
redeeman: i have two internet connections
redeeman: one adsl with dhcp, and one fiber
redeeman: and i want to do failover to the dhcp if the fiber fails
thansen: hasn't used anything besides NetworkManager for years
redeeman: but i _THINK_ my isp on the adsl might not allow traffic through if one hasn't done dhcp requests in a while
redeeman: nm is garbage
thansen: on a server yeah
redeeman: im not sure though, it may just have been my netfilter setup
redeeman: client aswell
dagger: nm is very nice for laptops, but not for servers :)
thansen: always connects for me :)
redeeman: it sucks everywhere
redeeman: it often breaks
redeeman: and its IMPOSSIBLE to debug
dagger: redeeman: never heard about ISP blocking traffic if you dont have dhcp request
redeeman: dagger: me neither, i suppose i should find out if that's really the case
dagger: if you want, we can have a look on your setup and try to debug it
redeeman: what setup?
dagger: "[15:00:27] im not sure though, it may just have been my netfilter setup"
redeeman: my setup is fine, but when i actually tested i made lots of modifications quickly, so it MAY have been soem problem with that
thansen: dagger: so you get all for proccessors running all the time at the lowest speed?
dagger: thansen: depende on the load - http://dpaste.com/119605/
thansen: dagger: so what exactly is turbo boost? and what about it doesn't work for you?
dagger: turboboost should boost CPU frequency to 3.2GHz on single thread - doesn't work
dagger: doesn't go higher than (default) 2GHz
thansen: dagger: so do they go *lower* than 2GHz just idling?
dagger: yes, standard way - they go down to 1.1GHz when idle
thansen: I see, so the turbo boost is the shutting one core down and raising the speed of another business
dagger: "What is important to keep in mind though is that Intel Turbo Boost Technology was disabled on the processors during testing, since this functionality had not worked under Linux for increasing the clock frequency but instead appeared to cause some sporadic performance problems." - from my perspective it just doesn't work - no other problems here
thansen: got ya...sounds like a kernel update is needed eh?
dagger: thansen: uname -a
dagger: Linux dagger 2.6.32-rc6 #1 SMP Sun Nov 8 01:25:42 GMT 2009 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 920 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
dagger: I'm pretty much on the bleeding edge
thansen: yeah, I meant to add the functionality it's a kernel issue more than you need to update :)
dagger: thansen: "With that said, Intel believes that Turbo Boost is functioning correctly with the newer Core i5 / Core i7 processors on the P55 Chipset and that there were not any unusual variability issues when it was enabled, but this may be a BIOS problem" - from http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_lynnfield_add&num=1
dagger: *cough* BS *cough*
thansen: is reading a redhat article about it now
thansen: says it's 'working' if the ida flag is in /proc/cpuinfo
redeeman: any of you that have tried openvpn multihome or some other way to do multi link for stability and speed ?
bobboau: I'm planning on getting a gew graphics card in a few months, but I don't want to get stuck in driver hell. what would you all recomend/how is the status of the radeon(hd) drivers for newer hardware
bobboau: quiet chanel is quiet