Phoronix IRC Log: 2009-07-26
Kano: michaellarabel: could you refresh git?
michaellarabel: Kano: refeshed
Kano: it updates
Kano: michaellarabel: why dont you use bs=1M count=256
Kano: thats better readable
michaellarabel: hmmm I'll change it
Kano: its not faster because urandom is slow, but you can see it more directly
JayF: hi just installed the testsuite in v 1.6 (its availible in the unbuntu 9.04 repository)
JayF: how to start the suite with the gui?
JayF: ou, just read, that 1.6 has no gui :o/
JayF: is that true?
JayF: maikmerten: hi
JayF: maikmerten: you know the phoronix-test-suite in version 1.6? - especially if it got a GUI
maikmerten: nope, sorry, no idea
JayF: hm, so what is the easiest way for a newbe to install phoronix-test-suite on a 9.04 ubuntu (AMD64)?
Kano: hi bkero
Kano: michaellarabel: do you want to create a b4 soon?
michaellarabel: Kano: Probably won't be a b4
Kano: i would like to package latest changes, as b3 is buggy
Kano: do you want to call it final
michaellarabel: it is almost final
Kano: well you can add fixes with 2.0.1 too ;)
Kano: just call it 2.0 if you like
Kano: name does not matter, i just dont like to package git
Kano: as when you begin with git, then you could package it daily
michaellarabel: Maybe... btw, do you use casper for Kanotix?
Kano: no live-initramfs, thats something like improved casper
Kano: but my scripts for pxe boot work with ubuntu iso images too which use casper ;)
michaellarabel: I had my casper.conf working fine when last working on PTS Linux Live, but after making some changes and such, my casper.conf changes end up getting overwritten
Kano: casper.conf is written in the initrd, you know that or?
Kano: then patch casper
Kano: put it in your repo
Kano: thats what i do for live-initramfs
michaellarabel: I had it working fine though last time, so now to figure out what I changed in the past month
Kano: kernel without aufs?
maccam94: does anyone else see that their 190.18 drivers only have opengl 3.1? From my glxinfo: OpenGL version string: 3.1.0 NVIDIA 190.18
Kano: which card is that?
maccam94: 9800M GT
redeeman: ogl 3.1 they happily do... but do they prevent hardlocks? ofcourse not!
Kano: in most cases it reports 3.2
maccam94: i'm just glad they fixed the laptop issue from 190.16
Kano: hmm you are right, it only reports 3.1
Kano: i think .16 reported 3.2
Kano: will check
maccam94: they probably realized they can't officially call it opengl 3.2 until the spec is released or something
redeeman: yes well if only they realized they should fix the hardlock bugs
Kano: it seems they deleted .16
maccam94: doesn't do them a lot of good, it's been picked up by tons of distros haha
maccam94: well not distro's, i mean stuff like PPA's
michaellarabel: ugh, casper still not obeying me
redeeman: i wonder if nvidia will ever fix their crappy driver
redeeman: [196507.304037] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 16, Head 00000000 Count 0000055b
redeeman: (EE) NVIDIA(0): WAIT: (E, 0, 0x827d, 0)
Kano: redeeman: maybe you have just got a bad card?
redeeman: i had it exchanged to make sure
redeeman: TWO times
Kano: did you try a new gtx 260?
redeeman: no i didn't do that yet
redeeman: either way, this card is not that old
redeeman: they should not just crap on people that buy a relatively newish card
Kano: i dont have got such a problem, g92
redeeman: lots of people do
Kano: not that many compared to sold cards i guess
Kano: simple g33 board and works fine
Kano: default clock for vga card
redeeman: i don't care, they should fix the damn driver, this card is worthless because of it
Kano: yes, but i guess they can not verify the error
redeeman: they don't even have the courtesey to even respond to the problem
redeeman: that's a lie
redeeman: ofcourse they can
redeeman: they just don't want to
Kano: did you try the card in another board with another chipset?
redeeman: yes in a P35 board
Kano: same problem?
redeeman: and the range of people that has this issue are spread across many different chipsets
Kano: weird, thats a common chip
Kano: but i think you had the same problem with another nv card before or not?
redeeman: not this problem
redeeman: and that was another computer entirely
Kano: beleave it or not, usually kanotix users are happy with nv cards
redeeman: because they don't have these issues ofcourse
redeeman: but those that have them are not happy
redeeman: and nvidia has not done anything about it for a year now
redeeman: they don't even respond about it
Kano: well currently most ppl buy 260 cards
redeeman: i don't give a damn about what people buy
redeeman: this card is still on the market
redeeman: and people have it
Kano: best buy ati and be happy with fglrx ;)
Kano: just never use xv, opengl for video is better
Kano: did anybody try to build a mt mplayer?
Kano: tried it this way
Kano: mplayer -lavdopts threads=2 file
Kano: i only get
Kano: [h264 @ 0x89a7fa0]Cannot parallelize deblocking type 1, decoding such frames in sequential order
maccam94: redeeman: what card do you have?
redeeman: this is going to end with a vendetta against nvidia
Kano: just sell it ;)
redeeman: "broken nvidia card for sale... please buy"
redeeman: yeah right
redeeman: i might get a gtx 275
redeeman: and if that doesn't work
maccam94: my 9800M GT had issues for the first few months after i got it
redeeman: then hire the hitman
maccam94: yeah craigslist the old card and upgrade
Kano: redeeman: does it work fine with win?
redeeman: how the hell should i know?
Kano: many ppl have dual or multi boot systems
maccam94: my system dual boots... ubuntu and gentoo
redeeman: m$ware isn't amongst the multiboot options here
Kano: well w7 rc is free ;)
redeeman: i would never contaminate my harddrives with that
maccam94: i also can't use windows on my hard drives, they're all used by md raid5 + lvm
Kano: enough for some tests like 3d mark and some games
redeeman: my harddrives are md raid1
Kano: hmm mplayer-mt works when dl the file from the mplayerhq.hu site
maccam94: what's mt? i saw that on their site earlier
Kano: well for ati cards you can not use vdpau
Kano: or for older nvidia
redeeman: big whoop
Kano: that multi threading
redeeman: i don't use that shit anyway
Kano: well thats only for my x2 3800+
Kano: my other cpus are fast enough
Kano: on those cpus i only see a diff in benchmark mode
Kano: stock E8400
Kano: in benchmark mode it is faster
maccam94: ah gotcha, i knew i read about mt somewhere before
Kano: in the news the mplayer-mt
Kano: compling current mplayer + current ffmpeg-mt was not working
Kano: redeeman: do you play games?
Kano: for xv alone even a 3450 is enough
Kano: with oss driver
Kano: just never try fglrx + xv, that hurts your eyes
maccam94: what kind of 3D acceleration do the new oss drivers give? do any cards have fully working 3D?
Kano: not even glxgears is stable when you use latest git code. so i dont use it only the ati git driver
Kano: not mesa
maccam94: i thought i've seen compiz running on the new oss ati or radeonhd drivers
maccam94: i must have been mistaken
Kano: my card is R600, mesa is up to R500 working
Kano: drm is enough for using EXA
Kano: i have got a script for updated drm, + you would need latest mesa code
Kano: 3d is in mesa
Kano: but until they call it stable it is wasted time
Kano: michaellarabel: in theory you could add a mplayer-mt benchmark for multicore
Kano: and remove povray, that does not run on more than 1 core
redeeman: Kano: not really much
Kano: which games?
Kano: i did not play that for ages
Kano: i like zero ballistics from time to time *g*
Kano: it is not that fast