Kano: michaellarabel: since when is 180.60 a new release?
Kano: it was only set as new official release but it is not really a good driver
Kano: michaellarabel: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.30-rc8
Ivanovic: michaellarabel: uhm, just read http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzMwMg
Ivanovic: and you are slightly wrong, tuxgames.com does already offer those games as download and rental versions
Ivanovic: so the prices are known
Ivanovic: cf http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?gameref=143& and http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?gameref=149& as well as http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?gameref=148&
Ivanovic: the price for a week rental seems to be 5% of the boxed game, a month rental 10% of the boxed copys price
Ivanovic: download only is -10% and download+boxed is +10%
Ivanovic: (that are at least the prices by tuxgames.com)
Ivanovic: off to uni, cu
Kano: Ivanovic: do you really want to pay for time restricted demo
Kano: maybe it is more fun to create a workaround instead of playing the game ;)
Kano: i like games without any restriction, caster is a good example. ppl who like it can buy it, no copy protection that restricts you to use it on one pc or with online access or whatever
Lightkey: 1. even if time-restricted, it is not a demo; 2. if you want the full version, buy the full version? no restriction on how many installs, no net needed either
Kano: Lightkey: do you know steam, there you can get time restricted games for free on some weekends
Lightkey: or so I heard
Lightkey: and..?
Kano: well i do not like to pay for time resticted variants
Kano: the price is ok, but not for 1 month
Kano: do you know how old lgp games are usually?
Kano: they are bascially all budget
Kano: many would run with wine too
Lightkey: ah.. now I know where you are going, well, happy W(h)ining then, kthxbye ;-)
Kano: well for the price you pay to play 1 or 2 month you can get the complete game and play with wine
Kano: no restrictions or whatever
Maikoru: Hi
Maikoru: I've got just one question
Maikoru: Is exFAT supported on Linux ?
maligor: I don't think so
maligor: I stand corrected, there's a patchset for exfat
Maikoru: ok, thanks
mattmatteh: thought fat was deprecated
GNU\colossus: oh how I wish that was so
GNU\colossus: we got UDF as a potential replacement
mattmatteh: its deprecated here, i cant remember the last time i used fat for anything
redeeman: your camera?
Kano: i told you to use it for bish flashing using alt-f2 with your asusboard
mattmatteh: Kano, havent dont that yet. and yes that is fat
mattmatteh: old fat32
mattmatteh: camer, i dont have one. i have used otheres, i plug it in and use ptp
Kano: btw. on my old via board flashrom works perfectly... if you want you could try that too
mattmatteh: Kano, i would try it on an old computer, not sure about this
mattmatteh: i have not had any good luck with bioses
mattmatteh: and lately.. a they do is crash
mattmatteh: and not sure how that effects the asus flash system
mattmatteh: and their email tech support is sooo slow
Kano: the first thing you do with a new board is to flash the latest bios on it
Kano: the standard bios on new boards has got always errors
Kano: you do not need to ask support to get that hint
Kano: unless you flash modified bios versions on it nothing happens usally. new boards have got even recovery options for currupted bios
Kano: i looked into the manual of your new board and it recovers even from usb drives when it finds a bios with the correct name
mattmatteh: Kano, others have suggested the power supply could cause the problem, what do you think the possibilty of that is ?
Kano: first update bios
Kano: highly unlikely that the psu has impact of powernow
mattmatteh: before i try your image ?
mattmatteh: ok, i agree that the psu would be unlikely
mattmatteh: do you think the cpu could be faulty ?
Kano: does not matter, you can try it before or after
Kano: well you did not update the bios on the first board you got
Kano: the hard to tell
Kano: returning before update does not help you much
mattmatteh: Kano, i have built other computers before and never had a problem and have never had to update the bios
Kano: mattmatteh: maybe i build more ;)
mattmatteh: not saying the bios is not buggy, just stumped. but will update the bios
mattmatteh: after this experience, not sure i want to ever again
Kano: i even modify bios, did that today too,but i guess the tool i used was not fully compatible with the bios image
Kano: i only replaced the pxe part with a gpxe rom
Kano: that itself worked fine
Kano: but my fsb 266 cpu was detected as fsb 66 cpu then
Kano: i dont get what caused this
mattmatteh: i guess you are alot more experienced with the bios
mattmatteh: i just want it to work
Kano: i am also more brutal in those things ;)
mattmatteh: have you fried a board messing with the bios ?
mattmatteh: or cpu ?
Kano: board yes
Kano: was a modified bios
Kano: with correct checksum, the dual bios function did not work
mattmatteh: i guess i am paranoid about bricking the board
Kano: well returned the board, got a new one without problems
Kano: the chip was soldered, no hotflash possible directly
mattmatteh: i dont get soldering on the bios chip, just makes bricking the board extremely difficult to fix
Kano: your board is new, you can return it easyly
mattmatteh: kinda, they still try to blow off shipping on me
mattmatteh: with the gigabyte board, newegg was cool about it though
Kano: in 99% of all cases with standard bios it works fine
Kano: you do not even use a modified bios, you use the correct one...
Kano: at max you have to use a cmos clear jumper
Kano: in most cases when you DOWNGRADE the bios
mattmatteh: i had to clear the cmos once, after the bios crashed
mattmatteh: the last few times it reset itself at boot, then i had to go redo the settings
Kano: and you think thats normal?
Kano: usally the battery is not connected correctly or did it fail with OC error?
mattmatteh: OC ? if you mean overlcocking, no i dont do that. i am trying to get efficency with cpu scaling
mattmatteh: Kano, i know its not normal, but cant figure it out. and i suppose i can understand some bios bugs or errors, but that seems kinda bold
mattmatteh: Kano, there was a battery in it when i got it. i left it. i dont see how a computer can work for 30 days, enable cpu scaling then it crash and have that be the battery
Kano: did you remove cmos battery
mattmatteh: only after it crashed
mattmatteh: and failed to boot
mattmatteh: i removed and reset
mattmatteh: then put it back in
Kano: maybe not fully connected
mattmatteh: didnt mess with it again, kinda scared of the computer now, and it was running fine for 30 days, then i tired cpu scaling again
Kano: scared of a pc
Kano: hahah
redeeman: only 3.3TB free on array now :(
redeeman: haha, i just shut down a box, and the disks said "CLOCK" really hard when turning off :D
redeeman: i guess 6 disks will do that :)
mattmatteh: Kano, yeah... sad, thats how bad this is