Phoronix IRC Log: 2009-03-17
GNU\colossus: which userspace components does modesetting on intel specifically need?
GNU\colossus: intel driver 2.6.3 is fine I guess?
GNU\colossus: and xorg 1.5.3 should work too, am I correct?
buggs: michaellarabel, why do you keep benchmarking ssd with CPU bound programs?
buggs: try lucene or db based programs e.g.
Kano: hi michaellarabel , how about autoinstalling depends on debian, ubuntu is only a debian clone, so why not use the real system?
michaellarabel: Kano: I have been wanting to test it, but have no Debian boxes offhand. It's easy to do:
michaellarabel: In pts-core/static/software-vendor-aliases.txt just specify debian = ubuntu
michaellarabel: If you test that, I will commit it to Git and it should just work fine.
Kano: well some packages might have differnet names,but most of em should be the same
Kano: michaellarabel: how would you ask for pw, is sudo predefined?
michaellarabel: That is setup in pts/distro-scripts/install-ubuntu-packages.sh
Kano: it is stupid to test against a username
Kano: you can also have another user with uid/gid 0
Kano: "$(id -u)" != 0
Kano: for example
Kano: $UID != 0
michaellarabel: that script was simply based off the fglrx packaging script of Mario's for Ubuntu. But patches are welcome.
Kano: the one who wrote it had really no idea what he does
Kano: well kdesu as default should be fine in live mode
Kano: sudo too, just not on hd, but it is unlikely that somebody uses pure textmode, in that case somebody should use su -c
Kano: will add that debian=ubuntu override to beta 1
Kano: hmm there is no beta 1?
michaellarabel: no beta 1 yet. Probably Thursday. But if you can test it to see if it works, that would be good.
Kano: i know somebody who likes benchmarks running from usb drive
Kano: and has really cool hardware, dual xeon, dual firepro, something like that
Kano: michaellarabel: you forget too many build-deps
michaellarabel: such as?
Kano: nasm for bandwith test
Kano: it found it later but
Kano: make: nasm: Kommando nicht gefunden
Kano: make: *** [bandwidth] Fehler 127
Kano: what do you do before
michaellarabel: Not sure, I haven't ran the bandwidth test in ages.
Kano: maybe i should not compile a kernel the same time ;)
Kano: what was the idle test called?
Kano: ah timed idle
Kano: how to add those cpu/gpu things to record
Kano: is it default?
michaellarabel: MONITOR=all ./phoronix-test-suite benchmark idle
Kano: in the menu you have got 2 times specviewspev, not sv9 + sv10
Kano: in the gui mode
michaellarabel: ohhh I think I know why, because version isn't listed there... hmm
Kano: the desc. is always the same
Kano: specviewperf10 - SPECViewPerf [VERIFIED, FREE]
Kano: specviewperf9 - SPECViewPerf [VERIFIED, FREE]
Kano: did you ever try to enable CF with 2 firegl/pro cards?
Kano: it always crashed with 9-2
Kano: and 2x 4870 did not work too
Kano: not my system, but something with dual xeon + 6 gb ram
michaellarabel: Kano: CrossFire doesn't work on WS cards
Kano: michaellarabel: when you use kdesu or so, then you dont see that it does
Kano: you would need to start a terminal
Kano: also you try to install ia32-libs here always, but is already installed
Kano: how do you check for it
michaellarabel: it should be done in the FileCheck of pts/distro-xml/ubuntu-packages.xml
Kano: you check for a doc file?
Kano: if you really want to do that check for /usr/share/doc/ia32-libs/README.Debian
Kano: as that is in debian+ubuntu package
Kano: the other one is only in ubuntu (debian has no .gz ending for that file)
Kano: the other files have got different location
michaellarabel: what about checking for just /usr/share/doc/ia32-libs
Kano: is it a file or dir check?
Kano: a dir is no file. do you test for existance?
michaellarabel: pts-core supports checking for files and dirs
Kano: if you can check for dir then this is ok too
Kano: why do you prefer opengdk over sun-java6-jre?
michaellarabel: Because OpenJDK is on pretty much all distros where with say Fedora you can't get Sun Java6
Kano: well you can not install it with a gui frontend without input
Kano: kdesu "x-terminal-emulator -e apt-get update"
Kano: like that
Kano: when X is set
michaellarabel: patches are welcome
Kano: add a "x-terminal-emulator -e"
Kano: maybe change just your root command?
Kano: ! -z is -n or just "$VAR"
Kano: [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]
Kano: [ "$DISPLAY" ]
Kano: but ! -z looks somehow crazy
michaellarabel: patches are welcome :)
Kano: well there is a problem when you do it with one option
Kano: you would need 2
Kano: michaellarabel: i still have got some benchmarks not returning
Kano: currently i tested one java 2d micro bench, this showed results but did not return
Kano: michaellarabel: could you use x-www-browser instead of xdg-open?
michaellarabel: Kano: That though doesn
michaellarabel: doesn't use defaults
Kano: which defaults
Kano: kde defaults?
michaellarabel: If I run x-www-browser right now it uses Epipahy where as my default is set to Firefox
Kano: sure,but here the default in kde is konqueror
Kano: but konqueror can not render the result
Kano: or make it konqueror compatible
michaellarabel: so we then just do a check for KDE and use it in that case
Kano: of course you can set the html option to firefox but thats not that ideal if you have to do that
Kano: did you ever check why konqueror can not render the result?
michaellarabel: Nope. Does Konqueror even have SVG support?
Kano: well the xml files are not shown correctly
michaellarabel: Kano: http://phorogit.com/index.php?p=phoronix-test-suite.git&a=commitdiff&h=f19e8dc43bd0caeab71e68b39d7b1feebb17564c&hb=60eef55ed7285fee8baddeedf850bdfee8f052d2 this should fix it
Kano: michaellarabel: [ "`which whatever`" ] would be enough as test
Kano: basically it is possible that x-www-browser is konqueror too, how about a setting that uses firefox first?
michaellarabel: that's how it was originally, but then received complaints from people who had Firefox but it wasn't their default.
Kano: but please rewrite your tests
michaellarabel: which tests?
Kano: [ "`which x-www-browser`" ]
michaellarabel: oh those
Kano: that stupid thing with pts
michaellarabel: I'll put it on my todo list
Kano: or maybe add a config option for the browser?
GNU\colossus: you shouldn't use `` or which, anyway
GNU\colossus: $() and type -p are the way to go
Kano: well ` is ok, $( is not posix somebody told me
Kano: [ pts`which x-www-browser` != pts ]
Kano: but that really looks ugly ;)
GNU\colossus: Kano: $() is POSIX. see http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#tag_18_06_03
Kano: GNU\colossus: fine, ` is so hard to type on a german layout *g*
GNU\colossus: ah, du bist also auch von hier? ;)
GNU\colossus: (ich bin zwar oesterreicher, aber da wollen wir mal nicht so pingelig sein...)
michaellarabel: PTS 1.8.0 Selbu Beta 1 : http://phoronix-test-suite.com/pipermail/trondheim-pts_phoronix-test-suite.com/2009-March/000104.html
Kano: michaellarabel: as you start pts usally inside a console window, why do you call kdesu?
Kano: when you use sudo then you will be prompted to enter the key usually in the same window
Kano: and you could see what is done, but when you use kdesu with apt-get you will never see what happens
Kano: maybe if you loook into .xsession-errors, but who does that
stevo32: anyone know how to disable xrender when using the nvidia proprietary drivers? in previous versions, using "RenderAccel" "False" in the device section did it, but with the latest nvidia drivers i'm experiencing the exact same crashes i had when xrender was enabled
evocallaghan: michaellarabel: hello
michaellarabel: Hi evocallaghan
evocallaghan: still busy on your next test suit release ?
Kano: michaellarabel: could you give lspci -nn from that eee top
michaellarabel: evocallaghan: Yes
michaellarabel: Kano: next time I have it on
Kano: also dont forget to post a bug on launchpad
Kano: otherwise it will most likely not fixed
Kano: as the gfx chip is really old in theory the needed fix can not be that big
Kano: maybe a small change in a new rev
Kano: did you get your x58 system running?
evocallaghan: any idea if tyan are coming out with 5500 mb soon ?
evocallaghan: next week or so
evocallaghan: need to buy some hw for our project
michaellarabel: Not sure
michaellarabel: Kano: Not yet
Kano: also there is a new 126.96.36.199 kernel out
Kano: the ubuntu -11 kernels
Kano: maybe this helps
Kano: just uploaded em, need to build new iso images
Kano: funny. ubuntu got a xserver 1.6 version..
evocallaghan: michaellarabel: thought I would let this one slip
Kano: is ati too stupid to release official drivers with xserver 1.6 support or why are they only in the ubuntu repo
evocallaghan: auroraux is getting kernel mode setting soon'ish
michaellarabel: How long have you been working on KMS? With any Intel folks?
evocallaghan: Its being worked on
evocallaghan: not quite working properly yet
evocallaghan: michaellarabel why? like to do some testing soon ?
evocallaghan: maybe in 3weeks
michaellarabel: evocallaghan: Yes. And a news item :)
evocallaghan: oh, leave that for 3weeks
evocallaghan: although I am sure someone here has already picked it up
evocallaghan: Any way, a intro of auroraux would be useful for mind share
michaellarabel: So have you got GEM working under OpenSolaris
evocallaghan: we *really* need it
evocallaghan: code is not working yet
evocallaghan: but its getting worked on
michaellarabel: but you're porting over GEM, yes?
evocallaghan: keep carm
evocallaghan: The DRI stuff etc..
evocallaghan: I'm only a small part at the moment
evocallaghan: as I am scratched across multiple projects inside the AuroraUX project as a whole
michaellarabel: evocallaghan: Is any work being done to push the support back into OpenSolaris?
evocallaghan: a lot is from Sun and Intel
Kano: michaellarabel: did you look into the orig file
michaellarabel: Kano: What?
Kano: of that unreleased driver
Kano: the files are in the xorg 7.4 dir
michaellarabel: No I didn't look at the orig file
Kano: it can be a packageing trick or ati created a driver which works with xserver 1.5+1.6
Kano: basially they only need to get rid of one unsupported command
evocallaghan: michaellarabel: well, hope you enjoyed my blathering on about AUX. have a good evening.
evocallaghan: returns to his pit to code skynet
michaellarabel: evocallaghan: Yep, thanks. Have a good evening.
Kano: maybe u manages to get aufs working with 2.6.29 then i can build a test image with it
Kano: currently it is disabled
Kano: in the 2.6.29 git
Kano: michaellarabel: did you notice that git repo