Phoronix IRC Log: 2009-02-03
bkero: I'm not sure what kernel performance is.
bkero: A kernel will alter performance of hardware
Deanjo: Well there could be improvements done to other area's as well such as filesystems
krypto: hi!
redeeman: Qaridarium is really hilarious in the ati thread
mattmatteh: redeeman, what category/topic ?
redeeman: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15225
redeeman: i find it most weird how it seems he actually knows the words, but cant spell at all
mattmatteh: redeeman, i read the first page
mattmatteh: and that was enough
mattmatteh: that was a troll / rant
redeeman: no, it was a german that cannot spell
mattmatteh: redeeman, oh
redeeman: anyone here that has ordered from mouser before?
mattmatteh: redeeman, mouser electronics
mattmatteh: ?
redeeman: yes
redeeman: i ordered with expensive super fast shipping
redeeman: and they targetted the shipping date to 02 feb
redeeman: but it still just says "shipment pending" on the tracking site
mattmatteh: i think i ordered from them a long time ago
mattmatteh: but not recently
mattmatteh: i havent messed with hardware too much
mattmatteh: and dont have $ for that anymore
redeeman: the item i ordered was in stock, said they had 50 ready to send immediately
mattmatteh: what did you order ?
redeeman: ATNGW100
mattmatteh: not familiar with that
redeeman: it's an avr32 evaluation board
mattmatteh: redeeman, that looks nice
redeeman: yes
mattmatteh: redeeman, the specs are in pdf, and dont want to download
mattmatteh: what cpu is that ?
redeeman: it's an AT32AP7000 atmel AVR32
redeeman: 150mhz standard
mattmatteh: that like an arm ?
redeeman: well.. it's a competing architecture
mattmatteh: 150 mhz is a little slow
mattmatteh: for net it might be fine
mattmatteh: i have wrt54g now
redeeman: they can easily be clocked to 200mhz
redeeman: though i don't need it for my application
mattmatteh: would like to get something new.
mattmatteh: but with a pcie slot to add wireless N someday
redeeman: they use NO power
mattmatteh: redeeman, thats always a plus
redeeman: if you feed the 5v directly, it's like... ~300mA max
redeeman: typically much less
mattmatteh: not bad
redeeman: what uses alot power is doing SD card IO
mattmatteh: redeeman, you use those embedded boards alot ?
redeeman: i never used an avr32 before, but a friend of mine uses them
redeeman: and i figure this board is a nice way to test it out
redeeman: since it comes with linux(which ill be needing) and such
redeeman: for some of my applications, 8bit AVR's are getting a tad too limiting
redeeman: brb
mattmatteh: redeeman, i was just wondering if you would have any suggestions to something that might work for an embedded home router
mattmatteh: i am using an old computer now, with wrt54g
mattmatteh: would like to replace both
mattmatteh: was thinking something like efika, but with pcie and dual gigabit eith
redeeman: hmm
redeeman: you need it to function ONLY as router or?
mattmatteh: just a router/NAT
mattmatteh: with wireless would be great
mattmatteh: power efficient, 400 mhz
mattmatteh: would like to run gentoo on it
mattmatteh: since that is what i am most familiar with
redeeman: without it providing the wireless, i'd suggest a standard fit-pc
mattmatteh: eth in, eth out, wireless N
redeeman: (just google fitpc)
redeeman: it runs 500mhz amd geode
redeeman: and has two ethernet ports
redeeman: and comes with gentoo and ubuntu on it
redeeman: uses ~5 watts
redeeman: i use one for router here
redeeman: well.. and backup, and ssh gateway, and webserver
mattmatteh: redeeman, i was hoping for non x86
mattmatteh: those tend to be the least efficiennt
redeeman: that is true
mattmatteh: was looking for mips, arm, or powerpf
mattmatteh: powerpc
redeeman: but i don't know any eligible system
mattmatteh: hmm :(
mattmatteh: might wait then
mattmatteh: every once in a while i research arm boards
redeeman: i was looking at beagleboard
redeeman: but it doesn't even have one ethernet, lol
mattmatteh: that does look good, but... yeah
mattmatteh: no ethernet ?
mattmatteh: i need 2
redeeman: instead they tell people to get an usb hub and use usb ethernet
redeeman: lol
mattmatteh: and then how to connect wireless ? would usb really work for that
redeeman: well sure
redeeman: the problem is getting a wifi adapter which actually supports master mode
mattmatteh: redeeman, i was mentioning that on another forum. and someone was like use usb
mattmatteh: i dont get that, i think almost everyone uses ethernet.
mattmatteh: redeeman, do you know of any opensource ones that would work well ?
redeeman: i think p54usb would do it
redeeman: but i haven't been able to find any products using it
mattmatteh: usb or pcie
mattmatteh: i think i might wait for something else
redeeman: unfortunately i think you're going to have to wait a long time before anything minded for end users comes
redeeman: the only thing really available is soekris
redeeman: which is amd geode
mattmatteh: redeeman, i think there are alot of boards out there, its just a matter of cost, and what other components i would need to get
mattmatteh: i can find a board with ethernet, or dual ethernet
mattmatteh: maybe not wireless
redeeman: show
njdoyle: I'm trying to set up compositing on my system. I'm using fglrx and it works except for when I use video or anything opengl. These two things act as always on top and flicker like mad. Is it just me or is it impossible to get this to work?
mattmatteh: doest use compositing, and doesnt have ati card
njdoyle: everyone seems to say compositing works okay for ati but I have yet to witness this :\
njdoyle: I also can't seem to get xorg to use EXA instead of XAA