Phoronix IRC Log: 2009-02-01
EvilGuru: Hi, does anyone know if the new Catalyst drivers fix OpenGL w/composite (I read that video and composite is fixed but nothing about OpenGL)?
Kano: did anybody try to run pts on win? should be possible to modify at least some 3d tests to run on win too
Kano: for cross plattform benchmarks
Roberth1: anyone who can share their experiences with intel gma x4500HD and the xf86-intel-video 2.6.x? is that driver very unstable with taht card?
Deanjo: finally broke down and got a LCD panel
Ivanovic: Deanjo: which one?
Deanjo: Samsubg T240
schestowitz: Aggressive headline, Michael Larabel... very exceptional.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzAyOQ (Intel's Poulsbo Driver A Bloody Mess?)
Azerthoth: hi roy
Roberth1: good start on the year for the amd/ati driver
Roberth1: nice to see that they have fixed the tearing through the use of composit
Roberth1: anyone who has bad experience with it?
redeeman: you can be almost certain that there is a heap of extremely unpleasant bugs in it
Roberth1: haha as i guessed:P
Roberth1: but I see that the open source driver is good on its way fo supporting r700 and r600 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
Roberth1: i wish i just could go to sleep for two years and when i woke up, i had a mature open source amd/ati driver etc:P
Ivanovic: the open r700 driver is *really* on a good way: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r700_2d&num=1
Lightkey: Roberth1: just saw this:
Lightkey: well, the ATI drivers are yet to impress me
Lightkey: so far the best I get is jagged lines on the screen
Lightkey: I give up for now
Lightkey: 5 hours spent trying to get ATI to work on a new card on a modern distro, no wonder nvidia is winning
Roberth1: Lightkey: looks like im not gonna touch and ati card untill they're open source driver has matured
Roberth1: Ivanovic: well those results will improver time, they are in a process for inplement features, and not polish them
redeeman: yeah lol
Ivanovic: Roberth1: and still they are impressing right now already
redeeman: just... don't buy the cards that don't have support
redeeman: it's pretty simple
Roberth1: redeeman: not support, but usable support
Ivanovic: to be honest, the proprietary driver is working quite well for me installing it via the "normal" package manager (portage since i use gentoo)
redeeman: can the crappy fglrx even do tearfree xv?
redeeman: or wine?
Roberth1: redeeman: yeah with composite
redeeman: and what if i don't use composite?
Azerthoth: then why bother with ati drivers?
Roberth1: then you got a problem, intel needs composite for tearfree xv, the nvidia driver tears anyway what ever you do
redeeman: nvidias textured/overlayed video is tearfree, atleast without composite
Azerthoth: er dont mind me, my mind was minutes behind in the convo
Roberth1: redeeman: hahaha
Roberth1: redeeman: its not completely tearfree
redeeman: yes it is
Roberth1: no its not
redeeman: on my xorg version it is
Roberth1: xorg version 7.1 or something?
redeeman: 7.3 i think it is, xorg 1.3
redeeman: that is, server 1.3
Roberth1: well I use xorg 7.4, xserver 1.5, and there it is some tearing
Roberth1: not much but it is there
redeeman: do you have XV_VSYNC on?
redeeman: what annoys me is that nvidias shitty fucking driver doesn't work with xv with xcb on, on my 9800gtx+
Roberth1: by the way how do I set that in the xorg.conf? its not permanent when i use the control center thingy from nvidia
redeeman: fucking nvidia
redeeman: control center from nvidia?
redeeman: your player needs to set xv vsync
redeeman: i use xine-lib with kaffeine
Roberth1: i dont think I need to do that with mplayer
redeeman: well.. without that xv property set, it does tear
redeeman: so if mplayer doesn't set it.. well :P
redeeman: even quite terribly
redeeman: before i discovered that setting it was horrifying
redeeman: half of the image belonging to one frame, half belonging to next
redeeman: one wonders why they even have vsync optional
redeeman: how can anyone not want it?!
Roberth1: redeeman: actually mplayer is acting that way for me, the image is split up in two frames
redeeman: then it doesn't activate xv vsync
redeeman: in xine it's an option
Roberth1: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/2007-June/052259.html maybe thats the right option
redeeman: well.. i don't know, i can experiment a tad later with mplayer, don't have time now
redeeman: but in the meantime if you wanna try, i suggest getting xine and/or kaffeine
redeeman: which allows you to set it
Roberth1: redeeman: wow i run mplayer with -vsync, no tearing at all:O
redeeman: it's insane nvidia doesn't only support vsynced, lol
redeeman: nobody sane would want it off
redeeman: or atleast default to it on
Roberth1: what you mean?
redeeman: i mean, why wouldn't nvidia make it default
redeeman: if it had been default, you'd not have had all these issues