Phoronix IRC Log: 2009-01-18
lethalduck: Anyone got any ideas on what a good mother board would be for setting up a server. I'm looking at running Xen on debian with RAID5. Single CPU, and maybe the choice of registered/un-registerd RAM
Milyardo: lethalduck: Any particular RAID solution you're looking for?
lethalduck: Milyardo: Probalby harware RAID 5
Milyardo: hardware as in motherboard or card implemented?
lethalduck: card implemented
Milyardo: and Price range?
lethalduck: I'f I can get away with out buying 2 CPU's it will up what I'm able to spend on the Mobo. From $400 - $1000 NZ
lethalduck: I like what I read about mos of the Tyans
Milyardo: Don't know the exchange for NZ dollars
Milyardo: Tyan is a good brand
Milyardo: Though you can go with almost any board if thats all you're looking for
lethalduck: Must support at least 8GB DDR2 RAM or better
Milyardo: lol again
Milyardo: that any board
Milyardo: Any server board at least
lethalduck: Seems like there are lots of server boards that don't support Registered RAM
Milyardo: Then they aren't server boards
lethalduck: up to $541US
Milyardo: There's one for ya
Milyardo: Supports of to 64GB of RAM
Milyardo: ECC registered
Milyardo: Dual physical CPUs
redeeman: why not get one with 5400 chipset?
Milyardo: redeeman: That may push him out of his price range I think
lethalduck: Don't have to use both CPU sockets do I?
lethalduck: Been looking at the i5400XT. So wouldn't need to fill both sockets
Milyardo: or maybe not
Milyardo: I guess thats better
Milyardo: except for some reason RAID 5 isn't support for Linux? but its Windows only?
lethalduck: mm, Although I'm not sure how good the onboard controller would be
Milyardo: Oh Yeah, forgot you weren't going to use it anyways
lethalduck: The i5400XT seems to have a very good review
Milyardo: waaay better than what I have either way :P
Milyardo: Speaking of which, michaellarabel, is there any future plans to benchmark more server hardware?
lethalduck: What board is that link for?
Milyardo: What I have in my personal machine
Milyardo: Its a random MSI board, don't remeber which one
lethalduck: I have a GA-P31-DS3L that I've recently decommissioned as a desktop... Only problem I encountered with it, was that sometimes after about a week of uptime... The video no longer seemed to work
lethalduck: Not sure if this would be a problem If it was being remotly administered
lethalduck: Plus only supports upto 4GB RAM
Milyardo: I've had a pretty good experiance with mine
Milyardo: never really stressed it to much though
Milyardo: don't have much to stress :P
lethalduck: Your GA-P31?
Milyardo: oh no
Milyardo: I've had a box use GA-P31 at work, it was getting RMA'd every two months
Milyardo: not sure if it wasn't because of the SysAdmin or the board though
lethalduck: So There is no problem with onlly populating one of two CPU sockets on any Mobo?
lethalduck: and does the i5400XT support un-registered RAM?
Milyardo: Any board that supports ECC registered RAM should also support non-registered RAM
Milyardo: at least in my experiance
Milyardo: I've never heard of a board that hasn't
michaellarabel: Milyardo: It's all a matter of what companies send out
Milyardo: still feels sick
Milyardo: goes to lay infront of the tele
Kano: hi michaellarabel , could you add an option,that the upload result question does not appear? just always off
Kano: or at least that it is predefined to no
michaellarabel: BTW, is your symlink option working?
Kano: it works fine.
evocallaghan: michaellarabel:Hi, how are you?
evocallaghan: hopes he has the right Michael !
michaellarabel: Hi. Alright, thanks. How's your project coming along?
evocallaghan: I got some 'news'
evocallaghan: Good, thanks for asking ! :D
michaellarabel: What news is that?
evocallaghan: We have our first ISO
evocallaghan: I ported awesome 2 and 3 window manager to solaris
evocallaghan: Small time news
evocallaghan: In fact, quite tiny :p
evocallaghan: However, we have our own ISO's for internal work now which is good
evocallaghan: Care to give it a spin in a VM ?
michaellarabel: Send me a link and I can try it out when I get the time
evocallaghan: michaellarabel: Thanks
evocallaghan: Hopefully soon you get get something written up about us when we are ready to do so.
evocallaghan: michaellarabel:Oh, we are also going to be the first opensolaris distro to ship Xorg 7.5 as well :)
michaellarabel: evocallaghan: That perks my interest :)
evocallaghan: Oh :)
evocallaghan: Hopefully with VirtualConsole support !
evocallaghan: That's about 50/50 at the moment, so I can't promiss that yet
evocallaghan: But yes, 7.5 :)
evocallaghan: Also, built in support for Ada, C, C++, Lua, Perl and Falcon
evocallaghan: No need to install anything
evocallaghan: dev power house :D
evocallaghan: Also first opensolaris distro to have working Xen out the box (apart from SXCE)
Kano: which packagemanager do you use?
evocallaghan: Kano:Hey man, hows your distro going?
evocallaghan: Our own
evocallaghan: Its in design stages at the moment
evocallaghan: However, its more a solution then a package manager
evocallaghan: Its much more then that !
Kano: well, i just patched in rt2870+rt2860 support to the 2.6.28 kernel, just need testers... 2870 is not yet tested
evocallaghan: Yes, I got some drivers to port into the opensolaris kernel from net/free bsd
evocallaghan: Just NIC stuff as well
Kano: anybody with ubuntu 32 bit could use that kernel too to try
Kano: just backported from 2.6.29rc2
evocallaghan: hehe, I don't run Ubug2 ;)
Kano: well i do not run it, i use the kernel + add what i need ;)
evocallaghan: Kano:I am *really* happy with the solaris kernel
Kano: i used solaris on ultra sparc. i do not need it on intel
evocallaghan: userland sucks though
evocallaghan: likes UltraSPARC and POWER6/7
Kano: i even played quake 1 on ultra sparc with software rendering ;)
evocallaghan: Trying to work out linkage problems here :'(
evocallaghan: Kano: Are you good with cmake ?
Kano: i prefer bash ;)
evocallaghan: Kano: What has a build system got to do with a shell ?
evocallaghan: A crappy shell at that :p
evocallaghan: btw, bash does not comply with standards
Kano: therefore i use manyly sh + posix
Kano: only special cases for bash
evocallaghan: I hate it when people do !#/bin/sh when they really mean !#/bin/bash
Kano: yes, thats annonying, especially on ubuntu ;)
Kano: i fixed the ati installer sh->dash problems btw *g*
Kano: even on the fly with sed
Kano: in most cases you dont need #!/bin/bash when you write some things slighly different
evocallaghan: Kano: :)
evocallaghan: Well, linux distros should not link sh to bash and we would be fine
Kano: like ubuntu or what ;)
Kano: i think lenny was tested against dash as sh too, just not default
evocallaghan: Don't these people understand that the standards are there to aid ISV's in supporting there platform !?
Memphis-: hi there
Memphis-: someone here who knows something the splashtop / express gate manipulation? i've grepped the big threads in the forum about this but am not successfull getting custom things to work ... would be great if someone could give me a hint (mainly need a shell in splashtop ... with this i could get some information why things are not working as expected)
Kano: does it boot?
Memphis-: ohh yes :)
Memphis-: with your tip of stripping down the version file
Memphis-: Kano *triggering just in case you have a trigger and want to read my query*
mitsarionas: hi... does anyone know if fglrx works with jaunty? or if there's a (relatively simple) way to make jaunty use xserver1.5?
evocallaghan: mitsarionas:If think the new ubuntu comes with the new Xorg no ?
mitsarionas: yeah, it comes with 1.6... but fglrx probably won't work with that....
vadi2: Does anyone have WoW working on 4850 fine here?
mitsarionas: does anyone know if catalyst 9.2 works with xserver 1.6?
Milyardo: Has anyone else experianced a bug wher VTEs don't repaint?
Milyardo: *it an nvidia bug