Phoronix IRC Log: 2008-12-19
kkuno: hi
kkuno: hi
kkuno: catalyst 8.10-11-12 doesn't work with my R690 chipset
kkuno: http://rafb.net/p/rq1MF944.html
kkuno: with tv-out
kkuno: with catalyst 8.9 is ok
maligor: what's with the AUDITs
kkuno: ?
maligor: you have a lot of audit rejects at the end of the log
kkuno: yes, don't know why
kkuno: sorry
kkuno: connection lost
maligor: does it show them with 8.9?
kkuno: uhm wait
kkuno: maligor, only one time:
kkuno: http://rafb.net/p/pyrUjH29.html
maligor: archlinux?
kkuno: yes
maligor: you could try asking why it gives you the audits on archlinux channel
Milyardo: It seems like half of slashdot has something personal against Micheal Larrabel for some reason
redeeman: nothing different from any other slashdot article
redeeman: but i will admit, the information provided as to versions etc, in the java article, was extremely vague
Milyardo: It seems like this is a recent phenomena though
redeeman: not really, everyone always get flamed for everything in comments
Milyardo: I meant the whole we hate on micheal on a personal level
redeeman: it's not specific to him
Milyardo: True, but in ealier slashdot articals featuring phoronix, I hardly ever seen a comment about michaellarabel, now it seems half the flame is over his character and not the actual artical
cxo: he wrote the article
cxo: he wrote the website
cxo: redeeman: did you find out what arch the java benchmarks were done?
redeeman: he did not answer
redeeman: michaellarabel: ^^
redeeman: but one thing is for sure, java is considerably faster as 64bit under linux, than 32bit
cxo: i was surprised openJDK was slower than sunJDK. i thought it was the same thing these days
cxo: like fedora/rhel kinda deal
redeeman: probably just an unlucky build or something like that
redeeman: my own tests confirms it to perform so close to suns that it's just noise that differentiates it
cxo: interesting that the linux version smoked the windows version
redeeman: theres not enough information to conclude on
redeeman: server vs client vm
redeeman: and even different versions
redeeman: and possibly 32bit vs 64bit
cxo: yeah i would think they should be pretty similar
redeeman: well.. do you know if sun has client vm on 64bit winblows build?
cxo: java uses a lot of assembly and doesnt rely too much on the OS's API, except for threading
cxo: yeah they do
redeeman: i see
redeeman: which they don't for linux
cxo: jre-6u11-windows-x64.exe <-- thats the 64bit client right?
redeeman: i would imagine
redeeman: lol you have winblows?
cxo: no. i just looked it up
cxo: https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewFilteredProducts-SingleVariationTypeFilter
cxo: i doubt that link will work
Ivanovic: michaellarabel: could you please run a force update on the PTS git?
michaellarabel: Ivanovic: done
Ivanovic: okay, works now, thanks
Kano: hi, if somebody likes to check some vga driver capabilities:
Kano: glxinfo|grep -o -e GL_ARB_texture_rg -e GL_EXT_texture_swizzle -e GLX_ARB_create_context|sort -u|xargs
Kano: nvidia 180.11.02 has got all 3
Kano: GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GLX_ARB_create_context
Kano: the last ist for opengl3 support, the first two are for next wine 1.1.11(or current git snapshot) and should improve performance
Ivanovic: and, of course, none of those are available for fglrx
Kano: did you try the leaked beta
Kano: my card would be so old, that would not matter at all
Kano: you need a dx10 card
Kano: from the hardware
Ivanovic: my card is a 3850
Kano: should be new enough
Kano: well will compile a new wine now
Kano: a wine bench would be really interesting...
deadinside: i just want to let whomever know, that i love the benchmarks on the site and it has ended some arguments between me and friends
deadinside: keep up the good work
michaellarabel: deaninside: Thanks
michaellarabel: deadinside*
bkero: Engadget party is happening pretty soon
Kano: michaellarabel: did you use a 8400 gs for vdpinfo
michaellarabel: Kano: The dump in that thread was from a Quadro NVS 140M
Kano: 8400 gs would be more interesting
kkuno: hi
kkuno:
kkuno:
kkuno:
kkuno:
maligor: what's with the AUDITs
kkuno: ?
maligor: you have a lot of audit rejects at the end of the log
kkuno: yes, don't know why
kkuno: sorry
kkuno: connection lost
maligor: does it show them with 8.9?
kkuno: uhm wait
kkuno: maligor, only one time:
kkuno: http://rafb.net/p/pyrUjH29.html
maligor: archlinux?
kkuno: yes
maligor: you could try asking why it gives you the audits on archlinux channel
Milyardo: It seems like half of slashdot has something personal against Micheal Larrabel for some reason
redeeman: nothing different from any other slashdot article
redeeman: but i will admit, the information provided as to versions etc, in the java article, was extremely vague
Milyardo: It seems like this is a recent phenomena though
redeeman: not really, everyone always get flamed for everything in comments
Milyardo: I meant the whole we hate on micheal on a personal level
redeeman: it's not specific to him
Milyardo: True, but in ealier slashdot articals featuring phoronix, I hardly ever seen a comment about michaellarabel, now it seems half the flame is over his character and not the actual artical
cxo: he wrote the article
cxo: he wrote the website
cxo: redeeman: did you find out what arch the java benchmarks were done?
redeeman: he did not answer
redeeman: michaellarabel: ^^
redeeman: but one thing is for sure, java is considerably faster as 64bit under linux, than 32bit
cxo: i was surprised openJDK was slower than sunJDK. i thought it was the same thing these days
cxo: like fedora/rhel kinda deal
redeeman: probably just an unlucky build or something like that
redeeman: my own tests confirms it to perform so close to suns that it's just noise that differentiates it
cxo: interesting that the linux version smoked the windows version
redeeman: theres not enough information to conclude on
redeeman: server vs client vm
redeeman: and even different versions
redeeman: and possibly 32bit vs 64bit
cxo: yeah i would think they should be pretty similar
redeeman: well.. do you know if sun has client vm on 64bit winblows build?
cxo: java uses a lot of assembly and doesnt rely too much on the OS's API, except for threading
cxo: yeah they do
redeeman: i see
redeeman: which they don't for linux
cxo: jre-6u11-windows-x64.exe <-- thats the 64bit client right?
redeeman: i would imagine
redeeman: lol you have winblows?
cxo: no. i just looked it up
cxo: https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewFilteredProducts-SingleVariationTypeFilter
cxo: i doubt that link will work
Ivanovic: michaellarabel: could you please run a force update on the PTS git?
michaellarabel: Ivanovic: done
Ivanovic: okay, works now, thanks
Kano: hi, if somebody likes to check some vga driver capabilities:
Kano: glxinfo|grep -o -e GL_ARB_texture_rg -e GL_EXT_texture_swizzle -e GLX_ARB_create_context|sort -u|xargs
Kano: nvidia 180.11.02 has got all 3
Kano: GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GLX_ARB_create_context
Kano: the last ist for opengl3 support, the first two are for next wine 1.1.11(or current git snapshot) and should improve performance
Ivanovic: and, of course, none of those are available for fglrx
Kano: did you try the leaked beta
Kano: my card would be so old, that would not matter at all
Kano: you need a dx10 card
Kano: from the hardware
Ivanovic: my card is a 3850
Kano: should be new enough
Kano: well will compile a new wine now
Kano: a wine bench would be really interesting...
deadinside: i just want to let whomever know, that i love the benchmarks on the site and it has ended some arguments between me and friends
deadinside: keep up the good work
michaellarabel: deaninside: Thanks
michaellarabel: deadinside*
bkero: Engadget party is happening pretty soon
Kano: michaellarabel: did you use a 8400 gs for vdpinfo
michaellarabel: Kano: The dump in that thread was from a Quadro NVS 140M
Kano: 8400 gs would be more interesting
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