Phoronix IRC Log: 2008-11-26
Oli``: How can I find out which version of the X11 server I'm using?
Kano: X -version
Kano: or do you need it for scripting?
Oli``: no I'm just trying to fill out the question on the 2008 graphic survey
Oli``: Hmm and I can't find a number in its output that looks anything like the choices given on the survey =(
Oli``: X.Org X Server 1.5.2; X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0... The choices available are "Release" 6.8 - 7.4
Kano: well what did it show?
Oli``: full output: http://pastebin.com/m7d36806c
Kano: thats 7.4
Oli``: okidoke - thanks
Kano: xserver 1.4 would be xorg 7.3
redeeman: Kano: apparently the intel driver reports opengl 2.1 in mesa master now
Kano: redeeman: can you check if zeroballistic runs
redeeman: no, i don't have neither mesa master, but i also only have GMA 950 hardware available
redeeman: but i maybe can get my brother to test it when he returns from the UK
Deanjo: Ha! Cops are looking for my neighbor
evocallaghan: Deanjo:Is your neighbor Riser himself ?
Deanjo: heh, nope, just a girl that has a gang member for a BF
Deanjo: Probably drug or murder related
evocallaghan: misses London :p
GNU\colossus: Deanjo: charming
Deanjo: Ya, just goes to show, moving into a "upperclass" part of the city doesn't help. Drug money can buy nice houses too
evocallaghan: Yea, we are totally in the wrong game ! Coca Cola is not as hardcore as it use to be :(
evocallaghan: You lads seen http://cyclone.thelanguage.org/ before ?
Deanjo: Not pulling anything up here
evocallaghan: Really.. try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_(programming_language)
Deanjo: "Dangling pointers" <---- always did sound like a perverted phrase
evocallaghan: thinks Ada ++ FTW !
evocallaghan: I like Ada :)
evocallaghan: I dumped C++ a few months ago, what a wast of years :p
evocallaghan: Not that I was ever good at C++, but who is .. ;)
Deanjo: I'm die hard C
cxo: No C, i'm die hard
evocallaghan: Deanjo:This Cyclone looks almost exactly like C though.
maligor: I can't get enough VisualBasic
Deanjo: BAN maligor right now!!!
evocallaghan: throws up on self()
maligor: I've heard the latest iteration isn't that bad
maligor: the .NET version
cxo: * #phoronix :You need to be a channel operator to do that
evocallaghan: stops living.
Exopaladin: has primarily been working in java recently
maligor: I should try it some day ;)
maligor: I have a VS 2008 pro license somewhere
Deanjo: Ahh for the low level coding I do, C and assembler are the tools of the trade
evocallaghan: *Please* try Ada.
Exopaladin: maligor: that's like saying you should blow off your legs just because you have some dynamite handy :P
evocallaghan: Deanjo:I do a *lot* of low level stuff as well. :)
maligor: I can't say I've bothered with assembler
evocallaghan: I just done a Ada version of my RTOS for the Atmel AVR32 ;)
maligor: modern compilers are just too good in most cases
Deanjo: When you want to squeeze out the top performance out assembler is still needed
cxo: uses Viagra to squeeze out top performance
cxo: way better than assemblers
evocallaghan: You still need asm if you don't have a toolchain that support your target in order to add support
evocallaghan: It also gives you a deeper understanding if your doing device drivers or whatever in the kernel
maligor: Deanjo, on x86 maybe
Deanjo: The need for asm will always be around
maligor: on anything modern, it's mostly a waste of time ;)
maligor: yeah, well, it all depends on what you want to do
Deanjo: All depends on you application your developing
maligor: for a scientific application that runs months, it might well be worth it
Deanjo: Well you wouldn't be using ARM's for number crunching type applications anyways
Deanjo: gpm for example gets a huge ~400% increase in speed when optimized asm code is used
mattmatteh: new gigabyte board locked up again last night
mattmatteh: is getting pissed
evocallaghan: hates his GB MB as well !
evocallaghan: I'll get a proper Tyan one when I get home
Ivanovic: has a perfectly working gigabyte board...
evocallaghan: Althoug these cheap Asus ones are not too bad.
mattmatteh: redeeman, gigabyte ma78gpm-ds2h
evocallaghan: Latest BIOS rev ?
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, no idea
mattmatteh: i havent messed with any bios
mattmatteh: updating that is
mattmatteh: almost always happens after some time of idle
mattmatteh: and tested once with nothing running.... turned on, and left it. ssh in and unloaded fglrx and usb. still froze
mattmatteh: after several hours
mattmatteh: memtest86+ 2.10 passed with the default test
evocallaghan: mattmatteh:Well, first thing I do with bloody x86 crud is update the BIOS
mattmatteh: but locked up when i tried to change the default settings
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, x86 crud.... sad but true
evocallaghan: is a MIPS/SPARC fan as they acturly work..
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, if could get one i would.
evocallaghan: I have a 945GCM-S2L here
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, infact i held off for a year or 2
mattmatteh: but it has to be reasonable too
mattmatteh: nothing outdated
mattmatteh: or cost more than 2 what its worth
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, how do i find out what bios version i have ?
evocallaghan: When I get back to London I am going to order one of them T2 CMT boxes and run a remote X session on a ITX board :)
mattmatteh: and where to look for an updated bios
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, what are those ?
Deanjo: From the vendors site
mattmatteh: link /
evocallaghan: Just google "ma78gpm-ds2h bios"
mattmatteh: is looking on gigabytes site
Deanjo: There is not updated bios for your board yet mattmatteh
mattmatteh: Deanjo, thanks
mattmatteh: anyone familiar with memtest ?
maligor: familiar how?
mattmatteh: are the default tests sufficient ?
maligor: just start it up
maligor: I imagine so
mattmatteh: the default test passed
maligor: It's found issues on my memories
mattmatteh: but when i tried to change one of the options, it locked up once
mattmatteh: then said it found bad ram
mattmatteh: but not sure how that works
mattmatteh: and the computer has never locked up while i have used it
mattmatteh: usually returning from idle
mattmatteh: i guess ill have to test more
mattmatteh: i disabled more power management in the bios
evocallaghan: mattmatteh:Sounds like some kind of ACPI bug to me. Did you try booting the kernel with ACPI disabled ?
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, no
mattmatteh: i can try that next
evocallaghan: Try :)
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, i disabled something with the usb. i think i was wake on usb or something
mattmatteh: ill try the acpi next freeze ( if it freezes)
evocallaghan: Your need to google for the switch, I can't remember now. I use opensolaris these days and i'm working on my own distro AuroraUX
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, the kernel boot option ?
mattmatteh: evocallaghan, how is open solaris ? i was thinking of trying that here
evocallaghan: rock soild !
evocallaghan: Hence why I am using its kernel in my distro..
mattmatteh: there a link for your distro ?
mattmatteh: i was just going read about what your goals are
evocallaghan: I only _just_ got the site up.. There is much work to be done. http://auroraux.blastwave.org/
evocallaghan: Nothing useable for the general public at the moment, sorry.
evocallaghan: I'll come in here and make sure everyone knows and get a artical up about if it possible
Kano: is somebody using 2.6.28 already? now in ubuntu git is a working 2.6.28
Kano: just renamed it a bit...
Kano: CPU[Dual Intel Pentium D clocked at 2799.687 Mhz] Kernel[Linux 2.6.28-1-generic i686] Up[-1:57-] Mem[-344.7/1003.5MB-] HDD[-100GB(80%used)-] Procs[-151-] Client[Konversation 1.0.1]
Kano: new ubuntu nameing was 2.6.28-1-ub-generic (for jaunty)
Kano: only nv 71.xx requires a patch, but that would not work with jaunty anyway
bkero: Anybody here a mutt user?
redeeman: that's not a good way of detecting mutt users
redeeman: you should have written "pine > mutt"
redeeman: and then when someone objects loudly, you question them for help
Deanjo: Funny, but probably true
Kano: well i used pine for some years, now i only use webmail
Kano: i used it on hp workstations and on sun workstations
bkero: I'm trying to cut down on my web usage
bkero: and webmail is nice, but I'd rather just have mutt running on my persistent shell
mattmatteh: uses pine alot
cxo: Whats a good coffee shop to go to these days?
cxo: is been out of it for a while
cxo: takes off his troll hat for the day
cxo: just got done flaming some retard
Deanjo: puts it back on cxo's head
cxo: its a tough job, but somebody gotta do it
Deanjo: It's not the end of the work week for you yet
Deanjo: New slogan for Gnome "Gnome.... the Gneutered Desktop"
Deanjo: Now that's how you troll :P
cxo: i couldnt be bothered with desktop environments. You are talking to someone who used blackbox for 2yrs straight. i need 3 buttons and wallpaper thats it
cxo: gonna pickup my new project car this weekend
cxo: real beast
cxo: 1977 XJ12, 5.3lite v12
cxo: was gonna do a ls1 swap, but the engine in it is barely broken in (90k km)
cxo: so i might keep it in for a while
cxo: this is what they look like http://www.colorsofjoy.com/jag/
Deanjo: shudders after remembering rewiring one of those
Deanjo: Wooden floorboards IIRC in those
cxo: no wonder it weight 2.5tons
Deanjo: Ya, they are pretty heavy cars. That's what makes them ride so nice though
cxo: i'm not worried about electrical work. only concern is the damn rust. those cars are like magnetically attracted to rusting
cxo: i've already got 3 spots lined up to bondo when i get the car
Deanjo: Your in Ont right?
cxo: gonna try out bondo fiberglass
Deanjo: Ya, well you guys are pretty heavy on road salt out there
Deanjo: You guys see snow yet?
cxo: yeah it started on tuesday
cxo: been like raining/snowing since
Deanjo: Still mowin lawns here to pick up leaves
Deanjo: had a brief day of snow but it melted the next day
Deanjo: Crazy wind though lately
cxo: you live in the bush thats why. grow some trees
Deanjo: Heh, we do have lots of bush where I'm originally from further up North