Phoronix IRC Log: 2008-11-21
GNU\colossus: .28 doesn't have KMS included, right?
michaellarabel: Nope :(
redeeman: probably for the best
maligor: Might lack RMS also
maligor: the patch to include RMS inside the kernel was too big
vadi2: Hi. Can anyone tell me what is the difference between "Conservative" and "Powersave" CPU settings?
Milyardo: One setting will raise your taxes?
Milyardo: Just heard on #winehq 1.1.9 is due any time today
Milyardo: michaellarabel: FYI
Milyardo: Actualy within the next hour says MichealScott
Milyardo: 1.19 is out now
Milyardo: michaellarabel: Get it while its hot
michaellarabel: Yep, thanks it just hit RSS. That's what I follow.
Kano: michaellarabel: http://www.winehq.org/?announce=1.1.9
Kano: if you did not look yet ;)
michaellarabel: Yes I know, it's already on RSS as I said.
Kano: well compiling now *g*
Deanjo: Damn these Phenom II's are starting to look like OC'ing monsters
maligor: there just isn't a real unit available
Deanjo: Jan 8th
maligor: I hope they live upto their claims
maligor: seen any benches of the new opterons?
Deanjo: Well they showed them off to the press
Deanjo: Looks like they finally got rid of the "cold bug"
maligor: cold bug?
Deanjo: 6.3GHz on liquid Nitrogen
Deanjo: Ya earlier AMD chips you could not cool too far below freezing without them locking up
maligor: yeah, kinda weird
maligor: I'm pretty sure transistors have optimal operating ranges
maligor: and for desktop cpu's that's above room temp
Deanjo: Granted, LN cooling is not practical
Deanjo: But it should allow phase change units to be cranked up now
maligor: yeah, not cool enough
Deanjo: 3 Ghz OC'd to 4 Ghz on stock coolers. Wonder what they would hit with a Thermalright 120 Extreme
mattmatteh: i got hd3200 working here with video. using xv i havent noticed any tearing
mattmatteh: and i was looking for some high def movie clips but can not find any
Ivanovic: mattmatteh: try the blender movie
Ivanovic: that one is available in fullhd
Milyardo: Big Buck Bunnny or the Peach one?
mattmatteh: googles for the blender movie
Milyardo: There are two of them aren't there?
Deanjo: Ya you need to use clips with a fast pace screen panning to really show it off
Ivanovic: Big Buck Bunnny
Ivanovic: though this one is not fast pacing
Ivanovic: just use some movie with fast movement (a dvd of an action movie works nicely)
Ivanovic: and switch to fullscreen
Ivanovic: you should see some "vsync related lines" (the so called tearing)
mattmatteh: Milyardo, i am downloading elephants now
mattmatteh: Milyardo, the 1920 links is not found
mattmatteh: so i cant test that
mattmatteh: anyone know of any good sites to download movie trailers from (usa)
mattmatteh: i was searching last night and all i can find are pages that use flash all over..... (useless)
mattmatteh: i simple download would be nice
mattmatteh: i got a few blender moview downloading
Ivanovic: mattmatteh: in general it should be possible to download the trailers apple has
Ivanovic: (recent movie trailers)
Ivanovic: and yes, they are watchable under linux systems
Ivanovic: you might need some hack to be able to download them, i think some time ago i had to use something to have "real" download links for those trailers
mattmatteh: Ivanovic, i didnt really want to hack to get a simple download
mattmatteh: Ivanovic, honestly, since they dont make it easy, i havent even bothered to try
Ivanovic: mattmatteh: no hack needed, there should be some firefox plugins for this stuf
mattmatteh: and havent really gone out to watch movies lately
Ivanovic: [19:08:52] anyone know of any good sites to download movie trailers from (usa)
Ivanovic: that is what i would call trailers
mattmatteh: i was getting some from apple
mattmatteh: but about half tell me i have java script disabled instead of downloading the movie
Ivanovic: ha, some of those should even work
mattmatteh: some do
mattmatteh: not all
Ivanovic: those pages all look rather fine over here
Ivanovic: better than they looked about two years ago...
mattmatteh: Ivanovic, those are garbage
mattmatteh: i just checked the ones i downloaded
mattmatteh: they are all empty files
Ivanovic: argh, okay
Ivanovic: so i can still swear on apple and their "support" for non apple platforms...
mattmatteh: i dont think its just apple
mattmatteh: how any other site
mattmatteh: you would think they would like to advertise to a larger audience....
mattmatteh: anyone familiar with usb problems on sb700 ?
mattmatteh: i think it crashed
mattmatteh: usb is dead
Deanjo: USB on ATI chipsets is unreliable at best
mattmatteh: Deanjo, i thought they were slower
mattmatteh: they stop working periodically ?
Deanjo: Your not the first to complain
mattmatteh: and amd is unable to fix this ?
mattmatteh: i read that it was buggy on sb600, which is why i avoided it
mattmatteh: and knew it wasnt completely fixed in sb700
mattmatteh: but thought that it was mostly speed issues
Deanjo: No idea, many of the sb600 bugs were carried over
Deanjo: sata, NCQ, usb....
mattmatteh: do you have boards with those chips ?
mattmatteh: does reloading the usb module fix it ?
mattmatteh: or did you have to get a usb pci card ?
Deanjo: I've found usually complete shutdown and cold boot cures it for a while
mattmatteh: a reboot doesnt fix it ?
mattmatteh: has to be off for a while ?
Deanjo: Not here it doesn;t
Deanjo: No just a shutoff and then power on usually fixes it
mattmatteh: have you tried a usb card in the pci slot ?
Deanjo: Nope, fixed it by replacing the MB with a NV based one
mattmatteh: i was almost going to do that, but didnt want nvidia graphics
mattmatteh: is it just the usb that randomly stops working ?
Deanjo: What was really annoying was the continuous disconnect and reconnects to USB external drives
Deanjo: Yup, that would happen too
mattmatteh: hard drive is just slow right ?
mattmatteh: that doesnt stop working does it ?
Deanjo: No it doesn't stop working as a rule, sata optical drives though have been known to cause issues with drives disappearing though
mattmatteh: so i need to get a usb and sata pcie card ?
Deanjo: Probably would be your best bet
Deanjo: without swapping to another chipset
mattmatteh: i knew it wasnt the best, but non functional
mattmatteh: reboot and usb is working
mattmatteh: i have it as a module now
Deanjo: SB750's have the same issue too
mattmatteh: see how well that works
mattmatteh: i didnt bother with sb750
mattmatteh: thats just sb700 with raid
mattmatteh: and i would never use a motherboard raid
Deanjo: Ya raid 5 support and ACC
mattmatteh: over clocking ?
mattmatteh: thats stilly too
Deanjo: Too each his own. I'd rather run a bios raid 5 then letting TB's of data go bye bye if a drive fails
mattmatteh: i use linux raid
Deanjo: Slow as hell
mattmatteh: that way i am not dependent on the motherboard
mattmatteh: is there any standard between vendors ?
mattmatteh: can a raid 5 in a gigabyte board with sb750 work with a raid 5 from an intel board ?
Deanjo: Bios raid sets can be carried over as long as it's the same manufacturer of chipsets
mattmatteh: thats why i dont bother using it
mattmatteh: if there were a standard raid.... then i would consider it
Deanjo: Some are compatible too like Silicon Image raids and NV raids
Deanjo: Most follow the melody protocol
mattmatteh: some is not enough
mattmatteh: as you suggested, data is too important
Deanjo: The performance hit on software raid is too great as well for me to use linux swraid and plus the system is used for multiple OS's
mattmatteh: trying out blenders elephants dream and can hear anything
mattmatteh: mplayer says can not find audio codec for 0xff
StevieC: Just out of curiosity are there any particular things that you need to get the Unigine demo's working in 64-bit Linux?
bkero: 'sup phoronix?
bkero: Anybody here have experience tuning filesystems for SSDs?
mattmatteh: i use an SSD
mattmatteh: but havent really tuned it
mattmatteh: few options in fstab
mattmatteh: reiserfs async,noatime 0 1
mattmatteh: and have /tmp /var/tmp /var/run /var/log on tmpfs
mattmatteh: you may or may not want log on tmpfs
cxo: tmpfs is just memory
mattmatteh: cxo, exaclty, not on the SSD
bkero: settles on mke2fs -b 4096 -m 0 -O dir_index -O extent -O sparse_super
bkero: Apparently a journal hits it badly with random writes
bkero: SLC SSDs operate at 2k-4k page size(reads and writes) and 64k block size(erases). With 4k blocks I should get less iops(plenty to spare on the ssd), but more disk throughput for small files.
cxo: haha this is funny http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
cxo: read No.3
bkero: Real hackers get their processors from ARM. ;)
cxo: 8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?
cxo: "BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. "