Phoronix IRC Log: 2008-10-22
starkmjolk: lo all
mha: all lo
Kano: michaellarabel: could you change the css for deleting messages? the color is white on lightgray, nobody can read this..
michaellarabel: Kano: what deleting CSS?
Kano: when you try to delete a post
michaellarabel: Hmm, that's never shown up as white on lightgray for me, but I'll look into it
Kano: you have to select if you really want to delete
Kano: thats in that color
michaellarabel: uncle_fungus: Hi
Milyardo: Good morning #phoronix
michaellarabel: Hi Milyardo
Milyardo: Whats new in Phoronixland?
michaellarabel: Phoronix has joined IDG's TechNetwork
Lightkey: noooooooooo~
michaellarabel: LightKey: What's that a no for?
Lightkey: for the " Hi Milyardo", what else could I mean?!
Milyardo: O.o
Lightkey: yes, I am pulling your leg here but you don't leave me any options :p
Milyardo: So what network catagorey woulf phoronix be? Prosumer?
Milyardo: Or IT?
Milyardo: Since that has the Linux option on their page
Milyardo: And what is IDG doing to make sure they give ads relevent to a Linux Consumer (and not a Linux IT Manager)?
Milyardo: Thinks makes me curious because Slashdot's Linux Ads are entirely for the enterprise, which makes them of no interest to me
michaellarabel: They'll be expanding their Linux channel.... Phoronix and HowToForge are currently their new Linux channel.
michaellarabel: In regards to relevant ads, it sounds like Intel is going to be the major sponsor.
Milyardo: Hopefuly they'll sponsor part for you to review as well?
Milyardo: *parts
michaellarabel: That'd be nice, but I don't know.
michaellarabel: I still don't understand why they send out hardware to LinuxHardware.org when they only publish around 2~3 articles a year...
Milyardo: I didn't know there was a LinuxHardware.org
Milyardo: lol they're last article was Saturday, January 05 2008
Lightkey: their
michaellarabel: Intel still sends out new hardware to them, but basically whenever I ask Intel directly, they say their samples are all gone.
Lightkey: and it is actually just a he
Lightkey: Augustus
Milyardo: Two of their last 5 hardware reviews are actualy links to phoronix lol
Lightkey: with a family now, which is why he has not been as active as the years before ;-)
Milyardo: Maybe I have a better chance of a getting a sample :P
Milyardo: Where can I find lib drm, version >= 2.4.0?
Milyardo: HAHA! Google knows all
Plouj: hi everyone
Erektium: hello
Plouj: I'm guessing that a lot of you here are interested in games for the GNU/Linux platform and especially Free Software games.
Plouj: Therefore, I'd like to point out to you that a certain tank action game is seeking donations: http://micropledge.com/projects/tank-simulator-game?do=pledge
Plouj: only 12 more donations of $20 are needed
Erektium: you got that right
Kano: Plouj: do you know zero ballistics
Plouj: oh yeah, that one
Plouj: looks ugly
Plouj: I've ignored it since it's proprietary
Plouj: and I have very high expectations of proprietary games
Milyardo: Why is they need funding? They can they not find developers? Or is there something else they need?
Deanjo: For the beer of course
Plouj: it's only one guy making the game
Plouj: and afaik, he already has a dayjob
Plouj: so I think $1k is just compensation for the time spent on this project
Ivanovic: moin
Plouj: http://www.linkedin.com/in/bramstolk
Erektium: moro
Plouj: he's a game developer by day too :)
Plouj: ah, there we go: http://ps3computing.blogspot.com/
schestowitz: Oh noes! IDG?
schestowitz: That's IDC owned... http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09/06/idg-idc-microsoft-money/
Deanjo: lol Roy da idiot
schestowitz: Ad hominem.
Deanjo: You ever see his "real market saturation of OS" reports
maligor: “I saw what appeared to be a word-for-word copy of about every third line of code in the central module of the Linux kernel” — Rob Enderle (regarding SCO)
maligor: what a strange quote
maligor: maybe every third line was a whitespace/linetermination?
schestowitz: :-)
Deanjo: lol
schestowitz: Didio was shown this too
maligor: or maybe someone doesn't understand programming
Deanjo: Grrrr, can't edit Thread titles in the forums
Milyardo: lol
Milyardo: This Readeon stuff is distracting me from my my homework that due at 12:30 EST :P
Milyardo: focuses on his own code
rski: ok who is the retard
rski: who made ads over the site so i can't read the whole text of the articles
rski: even how i scroll or tweak it's in the way
Deanjo: What is your screen res rski ?
michaellarabel: rski: Hit F5
michaellarabel: you must be running on old CSS cache
rski: right
rski: Deanjo: 1024x768
rski: still same michaellarabel
Deanjo: Can you run at any higher of a res?
rski: yes if i want to lower my hertz and i do not
rski: want that
rski: so who decided to break the site
Deanjo: didn't think there were still people that actually ran 1024 on anything but maybe a netbook nowdays
rski: i prefer running my screen in 200hz
rski: everything else just hurts my eyes
rski: well 150ish is ok but 200is way nicer
Deanjo: You would have to have the worlds most sensitive eyes then
rski: they aren't sensitive, i dont feel much in them
rski: but it strains them when i read screens for a few months in a lower hz than im used too
rski: or well not the eyes again
rski: but the muscles turning and focusing them
Deanjo: So it's more about the increased real estate then the refresh
rski: so you are basicly saying "noob, nobody runs that resolution. change it or don't read phoronix.com i dont have anything better to say" ?
rski: yea i guess then
rski: please dont talk to me anymore
Deanjo: Tis OK, I won't bother paying any more attention to your rants
rski: rants. the site just broke for me. and it has been working fine for years
rski: i tought phoronix was PRO- 'insert-random-plattform'
rski: including people running different browsers
rski: os'es
rski: etc.
rski: well Deanjo
rski: one a side-note
rski: 18:16 * Deanjo didn't think there were still people that actually ran 1024 on anything but maybe a netbook nowdays
rski: but looking at the facts for 2008
rski: 48% of the INTERNET use it.
rski: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp
rski: read it yourself
Deanjo: Ya and come Jan 2009 it's reasonable to expect that number will continue to drop by big margins
rski: yes but your asumption
rski: and the CURRENT. situation
rski: is not correct
michaellarabel: rski: Can you take a screenshot?
rski: sure
Deanjo: No on trend, that chart also shows a 10%+ increase every year for the last 3 years
rski: my point is still valid
rski: and according to your trend people will run 2048x2048 in 2months
Deanjo: Hardly
Deanjo: Most people are going to run at native res of the monitors
michaellarabel: You two should just stop arguing
rski: http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5559/haifl8.png
rski: my native res is 1024x768
michaellarabel: What browser/version is that?
rski: and i can run 200hz in it
rski: i'm happy
rski: iceweasel 3.0.3
michaellarabel: and F5 doesn't fix the issue? can you take a screenshot from an article page? Such as with the SilverStone SG04 article, I need to see how the right hand column matches
rski: witch flashblock installed
rski: sure
Deanjo: You can't even buy a desktop flat panel nowdays that is 1024 native anymore with the exception being netbooks
rski: michaellarabel: http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hai2js7.png
michaellarabel: rski: Does your ISP do a lot of caching? That is definitely the old CSS template
rski: i have no idea
rski: how old is the template?
michaellarabel: It was just changed yesterday
rski: it works in another browser
rski: just started epiphan
rski: y
michaellarabel: Maybe if you manually go to http://www.phoronix.com/phxcms7-css/main.css and hit F5 and then refresh and see.
rski: it dosen't however in weasel
rski: so that's broken
rski: ok, thanks for the debug
michaellarabel: Did that fix it?
rski: no it did not thou
michaellarabel: Try clearing your cache then in IceWeasel?
rski: im sure it works then , no need to fix it right away
michaellarabel: rski: Try again, I changed the name of the CSS file so it should fetch it either way
rski: works now
michaellarabel: rski: Yep, so was just a caching problem.
Milyardo: That looks like the problem I was having last night
Milyardo: a1
rramalho: says HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Milyardo: Hi
rramalho: ;)
Milyardo: Party in #phoronix
Milyardo: w00t
Plouj: orly?
Milyardo: Oh did I ever mention I think I made a good impression on the ignorant masses with my Linux gaming machine at a recent LAN that was host at my school.
Milyardo: Aside from the fact that my machine had some shamefully low specs
maligor: turned them into bullethole riddled jelly?
maligor: in a virtual environment ofcourse
Milyardo: The amount of knowledge some people have on #vim sometimes scares me
michaellarabel: Hmm, between PTS 1.0.5 and PTS 1.2.0 was a 16k lines of code diff but from PTS 1.2.2 to 1.4.0 Beta 1 we're already at a 19.5k diff.
Milyardo: Unfortunately it is all still written in php :)
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