Phoronix IRC Log: 2008-10-07
buggs: michaellarabel, it seemed a bit wierd for a site where the ads don't spring in your face ;)
buggs: maybe a donation button would be more appropriate then
mha: atleast all the ads seems to be under images/advertisement/ :)
Kano: hi michaellarabel , dont forget 2.6.27-rc9 ;)
copper: gives Deanjo a wet willie
MageSlayer: Hi, all. Does anybody have nvidia 96.x patches for 2.6.27 Linux kernel?
Kano: made one
Kano: which distro
MageSlayer: Hi, Kano. It's you I'm looking :)
MageSlayer: Gentoo x86
nickzxcv: does anybody have a foxconn a78ax motherboard? is it good with linux?
nickzxcv: how about recommendations for an nvidia pci express single width card in the $20-$50 range?
Kano: nickzxcv: not really usefull , in that case you can use onboard vga too. i would go for 9600 gt minimum
MageSlayer: I think, gentoo users need only patches. Not distro-specific actions
Kano: MageSlayer: ok, xserver 1.4 only?
nickzxcv: well, I think I might upgrade to a better video card later
Kano: nickzxcv: then go for onboard
Milyardo: Yeah I went with the onboard 8200
Kano: i would go for onboard g35
Milyardo: Works really well for an IGP
MageSlayer: Kano: Any version :)
Kano: i use em for: [ "$VER" = "71.86.06" -o "$VER" = "96.43.07" -o "$VER" = "173.14.12" ]
Kano: Milyardo: i like intel chipset für intel cpu...
MageSlayer: Hm, I meant xorg. Sorry. 96.43
nickzxcv: I also want serial ports onboard instead of the video ports. That motherboard is one of the only modern boards I've seen with two serial ports, although maybe other others let you have it on a cable to a slot...
Kano: MageSlayer: you may use at max xserver 1.4.x with it
MageSlayer: Kano: ok
Milyardo: Ahh I've got an AMD CPU :P
Kano: so you only want a new board no cpu?
nickzxcv: you can't really tell by looking at pictures of a motherboard if it will let you have the serial ports in a slot
Milyardo: nickzxcv: Couldn't you always get a serial port on PCI card?
Kano: Milyardo: you usually use usb-> serial converters
Milyardo: Kano: True
Kano: in some cases you only need a serial bracket, just take a look into manual
michaellarabel: NVIDIA 177.80 is out
Milyardo: I can start building a deb package new for intrepid
Milyardo: Link plz
Kano: url to dl?
Kano: hmm us mirror
Kano: and de too but not on ftp://download...
Kano: so this time no beta driver
Kano: michaellarabel: i would prefer some new legacy drivers however...
Kano: also a fixed nv oss driver...
Kano: hmm now i have got corruptions in background image...
Kano: and thats a stable driver *g*
Milyardo: This driver seems to have some regressions :(
michaellarabel: Which ones are you running into?
Milyardo: 2D performace seems to be a problem again with X.org 7.4/Xserver1.5 but If I go back to 7.3/1.4 with this driver, the 2D performace issues are gone on the 2.6.27 kernel
Milyardo: I'm making sure its not something I'm doing though
Milyardo: *doing wrong
Milyardo: Anyone else confirm this so far?
Deanjo: Heheheh http://www.intel.com/
Deanjo: "An error occurred while processing your request.
Deanjo: Reference #102.24c3f6cf.1223408030.16eb8aa "
Deanjo: AMD splits and intel's site goes down..... I'm sure a couple of phononix'rs can come up with a conspiracy
Deanjo: Must be using one of their i7's to serve :P
copper: you did it!
copper: why are the interwebs slow all of the sudden
copper: Deanjo: what did you _do_
Deanjo: Damn did my warm get accidently released?
Deanjo: Code Red part deux :P
copper: the "part deux" gimmick… does that come from "Hot Shots: Part Deux"?
Deanjo: Yup, complete with "Walleye Vision (tm)"
copper: As a frog, I love the expression :)
copper: seriously though, who the hell would bother hammering http://www.legitreviews.com/ ?
copper: I got a "SQL error: too many connections" message 5 minutes ago
Deanjo: Legit reviews has a pretty crappy server on the best of days
copper: and now it's http://www.samsontech.com/ that's being a dog.
Deanjo: hmmm, looks like intel finally fixed their site
copper: I've been lurking into the audiophile world lately, it's very unsettling
Deanjo: What I find unsettling is that I only have 3 more beer in the fridge
copper: I had heard of headphone amps before, but it turns out, an amp is not enough!
Deanjo: Ya you got other things like DACs and such to worry about as well
copper: Turns out, you need a $200 dedicated power supply as well http://www.headamp.com/home_amps/litepsu/index.htm
Deanjo: Most homebrews use battery power to avoid that issue
copper: I just can't tell where the snake oil business starts
copper: well they do make a portable amp with optional DAC, which includes a two-cell battery http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f38/headamp-pico-portable-amp-w-optional-upsampling-24-96-usb-dac-pre-order-thread-258967/
copper: looks nifty, but $500? Fuck me sideways.
copper: (and yeah, I know it's among the "cheaper" ones)
Deanjo: Half the fun of headphone amps is building your own
copper: I still don't get what an amplifier does, besides providing higher volume
copper: the problem with audiophiles is that they never explain things clearly (or make sense)
Deanjo: Because half the time the "audiophiles" make shit up lol
copper: I also read that some headphones need 300+ hours of "burn in"? wtf?
copper: do they wake up one day (one year?), and say, "holy shit, my headphones sound awesome now!"
Deanjo: Only after the 301st hour :P
Deanjo: You have to use Johnny Cash's "I walk the line" for a proper break in too :P
copper: which version? The Rick Rubin "goes to eleven" version?
copper: speaking of which… where the fuck is my "goes to eleven" headphone amp
Deanjo: but only the section from 1:13 - 2:10, if you go past that your headphones are trashed :D
Deanjo: And the relative humidity has to be kept at a steady 24.789% during those break-in hours
copper: fuck it
copper: pimps out his X-Fi
Deanjo: (and please account for the pressure changes because of altitude)
copper: I'm just mad because my local retailer didn't receive my UA-4FX yet.
copper: hasn't received*
copper: (engrish ftw)
Deanjo: @#$%@#$%#@$% Stefan Dirsch
Deanjo: I'm really starting to get annoyed with head butting with him all the time
michaellarabel: Deanjo, what problem do you have with Stefan?
copper: who's Stefan Dirsch, bitte?
Deanjo: Oh, his bloody attitude
michaellarabel: An employee of Novell
michaellarabel: Attitude regarding what?
Deanjo: I've got to fight with him every time on issues until one of the higher ups usually step in and make him do it anyways
michaellarabel: I see
Deanjo: IMHO, having to wait for the next point release of openSUSE to get bloody video driver update RPM's is just plain f***ing stupid.
Deanjo: Especially when there is a changelog as large as the one in this latest nvidia release
copper: Deanjo: how long did Ubuntu stick to outdated versions of FLAC and whatnot?
Deanjo: That's one thing copper but hardware support shouldn't die a few months after a point release of a distro
Deanjo: If it was a case of the drivers just adding a few new PCI-ID's I wouldn't bitch so much but the 177.80 drivers have huge fixes that resolve alot of outstanding issues since the last official release.
copper: I know
Deanjo: Hell, I'm not even bitching on my behalf. I build my own RPM's on my build server but Joe Blow doesn't have that knowledge or capability. As long as dev's keep the "build it yourself then" attitude it becomes another reason for people to avoid alternative OS's.
Deanjo: And linux is trying to get away from that "exclusive member" club philosophy.
copper: dude I'm already worrying about Arch Linux (my distro of choice) becomming bloated - ArchBuntu
copper: all distros tend to suck at one point or another
Deanjo: LFS never does :P
copper: 48h of compiling sucks
copper: I know, I've been doing that for years
copper: need coffee
copper: Deanjo: any downside to using dlopen() in order to deal with optional dependencies?
Deanjo: not that pops into mind offhand
copper: why isn't it more widespread then?
copper: Arch's package for mplayer requires jackd for crying out loud
copper: I'm waiting for the day they start adding PulseAudio as a dependency
Deanjo: That's coming sooner then you think *shudder*
copper: don't jinx it
Deanjo: Next thing you know they will need a IGP to run the GUI and a separate GPU to render the video :P
copper: "due to a limitation in our package management software, you have to manually delete a symlink before running the update"
copper: gonna watch the debate in a few minutes
Deanjo: That whole Asus intel IGP for low performance and a nvidia GPU for better performance is just a bad idea IMHO
copper: man I just want hardware video acceleration under linux
Deanjo: There are dedicated cards for that in linux
copper: for video *decoding*?
copper: still, I already got the hardware, now I want the software I paid for
Deanjo: I just want a 4 cell proc add-in card :P
Deanjo: copper, http://www.reel-multimedia.com/en/shop_extension_hd.php
copper: wtf, I turn on the TV, there's artsy lesbian porn on state-owned television o_0
copper: that's what I love about the french: as long as it's art, porn is kosher
Deanjo: Poopsie Plays: Spoin' For A Fight by AC-DC on Black Ice [Year: 2008] [Track: 7] [Length: 2:53] [Bitrate: 256] [Size: 5.26 MB]
Deanjo: New AC/DC FTW!!!!!