Ivanovic: moin
Ivanovic: michaellarabel: looks like the pandora is becoming a real success
Ivanovic: it is now even listed at the frontpage of /.
Ivanovic: that is: currently all official pandora related sites are not accessible since too much load
Ivanovic: yesterday there were 30,000 unique visitors at openpandora.org
Ivanovic: and at digg.com it is at the top, too
Ivanovic: (there it is the engadget article)
copper: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-intel-pc-processor,2031.html
Ivanovic: jupp, PTS is used there
copper: well it's now in english, if you care to post comments over there
maligor: Ivanovic, I see their server melted too
maligor: good thing I ordered before it hit digg and slashdot
laser21: hi guys
laser21: Im having trouble creating a splastop usb drive
laser21: I read the instructions by kano...
laser21: but they are too advanced for my noobish linux knowledge
starkmjolk: did the pandora handheld finally get out? :o
Milyardo: Its preorderable
Milyardo: its not out
Milyardo: :(
starkmjolk: still big news :)
GNU\colossus: 3000 preorders are being processed
starkmjolk: really nice. I am very very tempted to get one
starkmjolk: it's a perfectly sized MID without a fat ISA to drag it down :P
Milyardo: I'd get one if I had the cash
Milyardo: but I'm sure by time I get it, all 3000 preoders will be processed :(
Ivanovic: GNU\colossus: more will be processed
Ivanovic: that is: they will process ass many as they can get parts
Ivanovic: for
Ivanovic: and even amazon.com asked if they can be retrailer for the US
maligor: not too great a system for the average person yet tho
maligor: ofcourse I doubt anyone here could be classified as that ;)
maligor: 2 full months to go :P
Milyardo: :P
Milyardo: With the average person the techinical merits or lack there of is not factor
Milyardo: its the Marketing
Milyardo: and marketing can only come from a corporation with enough interest in the product to push it
Milyardo: unfortunaly from the perception of many game publishers, an open platform can only lead to one thing
Milyardo: piracy
Milyardo: no matter how untrue the reality
Erektium: ;S
Milyardo: This is why many are crying that the PC game industry is dieing, because (I thought I'd never say this but), PC with Windows are far too open to enforce any effective copy protection scheme
maligor: not to mention they try to push it in ram it forcefully in with even crappier ideas on how to control their 'IP'
maligor: erhm.. s/push it in//
maligor: I never minded the cd checks, but kernel space drivers and installation limits.. sheesh
maligor: better to think of openpandora as a MID with gaming controls anyway
Milyardo: :P
Deanjo: What's with all the talking in here today? I thought this place was just here to idle for Air Miles
copper: yay, Tom's Hardware has responded to the OpenSSL issue, they'll look into it
Deanjo: Oh did they?
Deanjo: in my forum thread or in the comments
copper: second comment page, first post, by "cangelini" http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-intel-pc-processor,2031-9.html
copper: what a shitty javascript commenting system
copper: can't even link to comments
copper: the whole javascript overdose trend annoys the hell out of me
copper: I don't know what kind of authority that user has though - he just sounds like he's part of the team, but his profile doesn't reflect that
Deanjo: Oh sure, you bitch in comments and get a reply, I bitch in the forums and get greeted with silence..... I see how this works copper
copper: not even
copper: I bitched in comments before, didn't get an answer
Deanjo: strokes copper off the christmas list
copper: screw christmas
Deanjo: gets a RMA of the Beowolf cluster he was about to give copper
copper: I don't care, I ordered my Roland UA-4FX
copper: I don't need no big-ass cluster, I just need a big-ass sound system!
Deanjo: now has the idea of using a cluster on PTS
copper: Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those! Oh wait…
Deanjo: I've always wanted to make a cluster of 16 Macminis
copper: you need to get out more
Deanjo: "Cluster in a closet"
copper: lol
Deanjo: By far my favorite little mac
copper: which makes me wonder, wouldn't it make sense for apple to make an Atom Mac Mini or Apple TV or whatever?
copper: imagine the huge margin they'd make
Deanjo: Apple really misses the boat on that guy though. They need to come out with a cheap 20" Cinema Display for it
Deanjo: Apple people want apple accessories and with the price of the cheapest display being as high as it is, people are cheaper off just buying a iMac at that point
maligor: beats me who'd buy a apple display
Deanjo: If they could get the mac mini down to $400 they would sell like hot cakes
maligor: unless they make a multitouch cinema display, they're pretty pointless
copper: no u
Deanjo: well maligor the cinema displays don't use cheap ass TN panels
maligor: I'm quite aware of that
Deanjo: They are still more then other higher quality monitors though I admit that
Deanjo: I remember one "celebrity" apple user who bought a MacPro and 2 30" displays so he could run the plasma screen saver in his living room
maligor: don't think apple either gives out panel specifics
maligor: and apple site says they have a pretty poor 14ms typical response
Deanjo: cinema displays use a LG.Philips S-IPS panel
Deanjo: and S-IPS panel typically have a slower response compared to a TN
Milyardo: I've heard mixed reviews about TN panels
Milyardo: what suxks so much about them?
Deanjo: Well they are 6-bit panels for one
maligor: Deanjo, I know that too
maligor: but 14ms typical is pretty slow for IPS
maligor: ofcourse it's hard to compare with new units because they give gtg
Deanjo: Well having used them quite extensively I can assure you that specs are misleading
Deanjo: I haven't noticed pixel lag on them
Deanjo: (no I did not buy them)
maligor: but what I meant that they don't specify panel type is that they can join the panel switching scheme if they like
Deanjo: You mean switch to a TN and not being able to tell that they have?
maligor: well, they'd be hard pressed to pull that off
maligor: but most panel switching is to other non-TN types
Deanjo: Because that is easy to tell from the specs they give by taking at the color depth
Deanjo: taking a look
maligor: I know, actually the hardest bit would be the view angle
maligor: you could argue that a dithered 6bit TN shows all colours as far as the human eye can see
Deanjo: They are long over due for a refresh on the displays. Maybe with new product line this fall
Deanjo: I don't know anymore, apple started cutting off my inside access to product plans a month and a half before I left them.
Deanjo: It was quite funny going into work and slowly seeing my access being chipped away at
maligor: it made you more effective, didn't it
Deanjo: lol, my last day came the end of my work day my workstations were locked
Deanjo: I couldn't help but chuckle
Deanjo: "Lenovo, the fourth largest PC maker on the planet, appears to be targeting the consumer section of Fujitsu Siemens Computers." :O
maligor: err...?
maligor: you mean buying it or attacking it with a new line of computers?
Deanjo: buying it
maligor: capitalism at not-working, mhm
maligor: Will lenovo buy dell or dell buy lenovo?
Deanjo: Dell's getting hit by some hard times
maligor: openpandora.org seems finally up again, the forum isn't
Deanjo: Their days of dominating the market is slowly dwindling
Deanjo: wonders if konq's engine has been updated yet to use the new version of webkit
maligor: gimp 2.6.0 has webkit ingeration!
Deanjo: nice
maligor: help browser it says
Deanjo: does it specify the webkit build?
maligor: mm?
maligor: it needs webkit to build the helpbrowser, otherwise it's disabled
maligor: debian provided the webkit itself
maligor: mine seems to be 1.0.1
Deanjo: Ya, that would be a older build then
aantipop: i wonder if i should run my cpu at 2,8 ghz or 3.0. when i run it at 3 ghz my ram is only at 375 mhz instead of 400..
Ivanovic: what about the stock clockrates?
Ivanovic: then you should get normal ram speed, too...
aantipop: that would be 2,6 ghz..but its a black edition amd cpu
maligor: try it at the nearest speed that sets it to 400?
Deanjo: Your CPU clock speed with outgain any loss from your ram being divided to a slower speed
Deanjo: CPU clock has a greater effect on system performance then ram clock