Phoronix IRC Log: 2008-08-04
Kano: hi michaellarabel ,do you still use hardy to test fglrx?
Kano: hi redeeman , these sil chips are storage processors which acutally only split 1 sata port into 2
Kano: deb http://kanotix.com/files/fix/gl2benchmark.hardy ./
Kano: is for gl2benchmark 0.3.2
Ivanovic: moin
Kano: hi Ivanovic
redeeman: gah kano left
michaellarabel: Kano, yes.
Kano: just updated hardy + sid repo with gl2benchmark
Kano: hardy might work with lenny too, have to check this
Kano: 32+64 bit
michaellarabel: Before I forget, I fixed the git server. It should clone in a flash now... I know you were one that long complained about the speed.
Kano: hmm will check
Kano: git or http protocol?
michaellarabel: still over HTTP
Kano: what was the clone command again
michaellarabel: git-clone http://www.phorogit.com/repo/phoronix-test-suite.git
Kano: 8seconds
michaellarabel: much better than before, yes?
Kano: what was wrong before?
Kano: had to wait 16 min or so
michaellarabel: yes, so it's fixed.
Kano: and what did you fix?
michaellarabel: I wish I knew precisely what fixed it... but I had recreated some of the branches and then also ran git-gc which did a lot too.
Kano: i guess it compressed it new?
michaellarabel: Not just compressed bur remove un-needed/old files
Kano: at least is is really fast now, before i had really no interest in using it again
shitalanj: Hello ALL
shitalanj: can i able to install SPLASHTOP on hard drive and boot??
Kano: shitalanj: basically
Kano: pretty easy with xp
Kano: saidly none of my testsystem with real hardware boot that way, only vbox ;)
Kano: but vbox works fine using grub2 in the boot.ini
shitalanj: now the source code i downloaded is consists of Core, basic_system and applience, m getting doubt that how to begin, i did not get any proper guide to this, please can u help me?
shitalanj: Or is there any .iso image available for this??
Kano: just use the exe installer
Kano: do you use xp?
shitalanj: yaa i am using XP too
Kano: you find express gate win installers
Kano: about 160 mb
shitalanj: where i can get it??
Kano: or full packages with 400 mb with exe + img + dfi
shitalanj: and is that Linux ones??
Kano: my script can install the img file onto usb stick
Kano: but if you dont use ahci and you are lucky you can use the win installer too
shitalanj: yess please how i can Begin installing on USB??
shitalanj: please Guide me
Kano: did you read my thread or not
shitalanj: which thread i do not i think
Kano: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11653
shitalanj: the sorce code i told above will be sufficient for me to install it on USB stick??
Kano: you can not use the sourcecode for anything usefull besides applying the patches to the kernel
Kano: if you have to compile extra drivers
Kano: michaellarabel: can you tell me which wifi is on that asrock, exactly
Kano: lspci + lspci -n
Kano: is enough
Kano: in some cases it is usb then lsusb
Kano: ah on the 2nd page... well i would write that on the first..
Kano: i like usb/pci ids ;)
GNU\colossus: i like filesystem labels
GNU\colossus: Kano: tried lspci -nn yet?
Kano: hmm also ok
Kano: good option
cygoku_: I have a laptop, with a Radeon X1400, and I am currently reading the latest article from Phoronix about the open source driver, will I notice that speed improvement from the RadeonHD CS driver over the normal ATI Prop. driver ??
Kano: maybe for 2d, not 3d
cygoku_: Why would that be ?
Kano: 3d is not fully implemented in oss drivers, not optimized for games
cygoku_: Why does it seem to be so hyped over at Phoronix then ?
codenamekt_work: Kano, From what I understand 3d does not work at all with open drivers
Kano: well it should do with new mesa
Kano: and drm modules
cygoku_: Ouch, that's too bad.
Kano: but when you update the xserver too you can not use fglrx ;)
cygoku_: I guess I will stich the way it is for the next year.
cygoku_: *stick
d2kx: RadeonHD, with all the latest improvements, will be faster than the fglrx in 2D because of a full featured EXA render that the fglrx cannot offer
codenamekt_work: I hope Intel and it's x86 platform for gpus blows ati and nvidia out of the water...intel is more open then those two will ever be imho
cygoku_: Why does ATI sucks so bad with DRI compared to Nvidia ?
Kalafok: eww nvidea
Kalafok: has an 8800 GTS and hooooorrible 2D performance
Kalafok: scrolling through xchat makes the CPU usage go to 100%
Kalafok: and its slow...
cygoku_: Yikes.
Kalafok: yes indeed
Kalafok: my laptop scrolls faster
Kalafok: even in firefox, and X is broken :P
Kano: Kalafok: kde4?
codenamekt_work: yeah twinview stinks too
Kalafok: just imagine
Kalafok: Kano, not even
Kano: 177.13 driver?
Kalafok: 173.14.09
Kano: well with 177.13 you can try some nvidia-settings options
Kalafok: okey...
Kalafok: isnt hoping for alot
Kalafok: drivers are the biggest source of misery, ever
cygoku_: Ubuntu is so great and easy, thanks for it's Debian based and package manager, too bad videocard support is so choppy.
Kalafok: be it the ample supply of bugs in the drivers, or the complete lack of drivers, or serious design faults
Kano: echo nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1 > .kde/Autostart/nvidia.sh
Kano: chmod +x .kde/Autostart/nvidia.sh
Kano: that would work with 177.13
Kalafok: okey
Kalafok: ill have patience till then
Kalafok: or try to get compiz fusion to work
cygoku_: Not to mention wireless Broadcom lack of support.
Kalafok: that might even speed some things up
Kalafok: i prefer expensive crap but well supported hardware over anything
Kalafok: this graphics card is really very fast
cygoku_: I wished I knew Ubuntu before buying the Inspiron 6400.
Kalafok: you just never notice cause the drivers stink :P
cygoku_: Atleast I can run Doom3 and Quake4 good enough to play.
Kalafok: okey
cygoku_: But heck, I have to close Compiz.
Kalafok: to put it in retarded marketing terms, i have a negative desktop experience...
Kano: compared to fglrx it is good ;)
cygoku_: My desktop experience is positive, emulation is so so, gaming is bad.
Kalafok: has no ati + linux experience
cygoku_: That's good for you Kalafok, you don't need that experience anyway.
Kalafok: lol
Kalafok: will stay away from that experience
Kalafok: although, maybe not
Kalafok: some day
Kalafok: crossfire seems to be really good
cygoku_: But as I am a retro gamer, the emulation support is freakingly impressive.
Kalafok: and from what i see, it supports 2 monitors
Kalafok: SLI doesnt
Kalafok: which makes SLI just as stupid as the people who decide how much time is spent on making drivers
cygoku_: CF and SLI are expensive tho.
Kalafok: cygoku_, not always
Kalafok: it really depends
Kalafok: it *could* happen that 2 75% as fast cards are cheaper than 1 100% as fast card
cygoku_: If you are not PCI-E ready, it is :S
Kalafok: making it 150% as fast
Kalafok: oh right
Kalafok: im not really PCIe "ready" either
Kalafok: my raid controller eats up one slot
Kalafok: and the graphics card the other :P
Kalafok: asus has some really neat motherboards for that
cygoku_: Ouch, I thought the minimum PCI-E slot was 3.
Kalafok: 2x 16x PCIe + 1x 8x PCIe + 2x socket F opterons
Kalafok: 400 euro's though
Kalafok: and thats just the board :P
cygoku_: Jesus, that's cool, from my point of view, since I have bad and unsuuported hardware.
Kalafok: ill stick with my FX 60 for a while
cygoku_: I hope I am not in the wrong channel for those discussion :P
Kalafok: not that im aware of
Kalafok: i hope they are not topic nazi's here, as on some other channels :P
Kalafok: and were discussing hardware, so we should be safe
Kalafok: hi FreenodeEurope
Kalafok: oh
cygoku_: Well, I never came here thinking there were only huge geekee's around speaking non-sense for me.
Kalafok: brb switching clients
Kalafok: there we go
Erektium: 'mmkay
Kalafok: oh right
Kalafok: now i remember what sucks about konversation
Kalafok: join/part/quit messages have the same colour
cygoku_: U can change that in mIRC32 :p
Kalafok: yes, but mirc does not work so well on linux :P
__mikem: um, I was told someone here could help me get my bcm44 wifi card working
michaellarabel: Anyone with a NVIDIA card and WINE and want to run a test?
vadi2: Sure.
Exopaladin: I can help too, if you're wanting extra results
vadi2: a bit offtopic, but does anyone know the Qt equivalent of GtkVPaned?
Exopaladin: only gui toolkit I've done anything with really is Swing :/