Gallium3D Gets A New Driver

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Gallium3D Gets A New Driver

Last month we were excited over the release of a OpenVG state tracker and OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0 state trackers for Gallium3D along with confirmation that OpenCL and OpenGL 3.1 state trackers are under development. Neither of these new state trackers have yet to arrive, but just committed to the Mesa repository is a new Gallium3D driver...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzM0Nw

[JeanPaul145]

Neither of these new state trackers have yet to arrive,

Don't you mean "both of these drivers have yet to arrive"?
The double negative makes it sound as if they're already working, fully functional and merged :P

[deanjo]

Originally Posted by JeanPaul145

Don't you mean "both of these drivers have yet to arrive"?
The double negative makes it sound as if they're already working, fully functional and merged :P

OT but:

Where do you see the double negative? "Both" would imply "one AND the other". ""Neither" implies "one OR the other" .

[bugmenot]

also OT:
"yet" means (afaik) that it has not happened yet. something has to happen in the future. i think this is what the second negative is, apart from "neither". I (not-native english speaker, as you can see) also have some problems with understanding some sentences.

[Zhick]

Yeah I also thought that sentence sounds pretty weird, like they'd already be around. AFAIK you only use neither in a negating/negative sentence?
I'd have put it this way: "Neither of these new state trackers has arrived yet."

[JeanPaul145]

Originally Posted by bugmenot

also OT:
"yet" means (afaik) that it has not happened yet. something has to happen in the future. i think this is what the second negative is, apart from "neither". I (not-native english speaker, as you can see) also have some problems with understanding some sentences.

The "yet" was indeed what I see as the second negative.

[deanjo]

Originally Posted by JeanPaul145

The "yet" was indeed what I see as the second negative.

So if someone was to say,

"I haven't seen a yeti yet." You would consider that a double negative?

[deanjo]

I think you guys are getting hung up on the structure and not necessarily a double negative.

"Neither of these new state trackers have yet to arrive"

would have read better as such

"Neither of these new state trackers have arrived yet"

It's more an issue of confusing tense then a double negative.

[Pfanne]

sweet no comment about the article itself xD
is this the grammarboard?

[deanjo]

Originally Posted by Pfanne

sweet no comment about the article itself xD
is this the grammarboard?

Sometimes, the grammar is more interesting then "No new news" articles.