Perhaps the highlight of the announcement today was that the company will be releasing its Roslyn compiler stack as open source under the Apache 2.0 license. Roslyn includes a C# and Visual Basic.NET compiler, offering what Microsoft calls a "compiler as a service."
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So, Microsoft just open sourced most of .NET...
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Originally posted by gamerk2 View Posthttp://arstechnica.com/information-t...-chunk-of-net/
I'm sure the people who have been busy bashing C# and .NET and MONO are going to have their heads explode over this...
checking head - its all in place. Are you sure its not your head exploding now?
// hah, noted Icasa is behind this. Nice try, mole. Try harder!Last edited by brosis; 04 April 2014, 08:52 AM.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostOh, how nice - a poison, now for free. They are also planning to make windumbs free for 9" or less devices. But both are still proprietary or in-house licensed. Nice try, M$ - but the big problem is: you are too rotten to be given any chance of hope.
checking head - its all in place. Are you sure its not your head exploding now?
// hah, noted Icasa is behind this. Nice try, mole. Try harder!
unlike 9". they first made it public under Apache 2.0 and then announced it. and as much as my conspiracy theory wired brains try to find loophole... there isn't one. for reference... roslyn (this is just one of projects in this line) is next version of c#,vb and since it is published under apache it also means it guarantees you right to all patents unlike old ECMA approach
problem with ppl like you is judging without checking the facts.
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Originally posted by gamerk2 View PostSo, Microsoft just open sourced most of .NET...
This would be akin to Sun open sourcing javac and hotspot, but not the Java class library.
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Originally posted by chithanh View PostI would like to see the reference for "most". AFAICT, Microsoft open sourced only the Roslyn compiler stack. They plan to open source more libraries and technologies, but that hasn't happened yet.
This would be akin to Sun open sourcing javac and hotspot, but not the Java class library.
I think they do want something like: .Net anywhere so they want that Mono will not be a "second citizen". But still, I think that is a great move from MS, sadly it will not matter for Mono haters anyway: facts are just to be dismissed
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Originally posted by ciplogic View PostThey released a lot of libraries, in fact I was surprised. Some of them were released in previous releases but they still count: MVC3, MVC4, DLR, Entity, etc.
I think they do want something like: .Net anywhere so they want that Mono will not be a "second citizen". But still, I think that is a great move from MS, sadly it will not matter for Mono haters anyway: facts are just to be dismissed
Fool us once, shame on them. Fool us twice, shame on us.
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Originally posted by gamerk2 View PostI'm sure the people who have been busy bashing C# and .NET and MONO are going to have their heads explode over this...
Seriously,
1) If someone want to make crossplatform desktop app, they would be better trying Qt. It works virtually everywhere, haves same set of widgets for most platforms and so you do not have to rewrite half of program to support new platform - its really up to library itself to get idea how to provide it usual widgets made of platform specific stuff. With .NET you simply can't do that as there is no common widgets set. And rewriting half of your program just to port it to new platform is an blatant idiocy as of 2014.
2) If someone want something non-speed critical and networked, HTML5 would be their bet. Interestingly MS isn't required here and does not really defines future. Their silly attempt with metro is just EPIC FAIL one more time. Not to mention they shown their .NET footpads that .NET is about to die as it can't be good in anything. Neither it suited for crossplatform desktop/native programs, nor it good for web.
Tbh I havent seen examples where .NET would actually help devs to achieve their goals and would do something good in long term. It rather causes ton of headaches and binds you to windows. It suxx as of 2014 if someone haven't got it yet.Last edited by 0xBADCODE; 04 April 2014, 07:29 PM.
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Originally posted by LightBit View PostLooks like Microsoft is slowly moving to Google-like business model?
I think Microsoft is realizing that giving out open source (without strings attached) software frameworks is more likely to attract developers. Everyone can contribute and widespread usage and development helps create even more business (and not necessarily with Microsoft alone).
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Originally posted by justmy2cents View Posthttp://roslyn.codeplex.com/SourceCon...st#License.txt
unlike 9". they first made it public under Apache 2.0 and then announced it. and as much as my conspiracy theory wired brains try to find loophole... there isn't one. for reference... roslyn (this is just one of projects in this line) is next version of c#,vb and since it is published under apache it also means it guarantees you right to all patents unlike old ECMA approach
problem with ppl like you is judging without checking the facts.
It's so obvious, only those who are dumb or are proprietary f*&ks can't see it.Last edited by beetreetime; 05 April 2014, 05:56 AM.
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