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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostSo basically he says that Ubuntu should be focuses on the average user and the leet crowd can go fuck itself. Also things aren't going in the direction the consumer wants so they have to pull the reigns. Seems fair. The linux community always focused on the wrong things which is why it never had a chance on the desktop. Now hopefully things will change. I really hope Ubuntu gets it right. The more market share it gets the more traction it will get in terms of development and we will have fewer bugs. But it will be necessary for some people to pull their heads out of their asses and join in.
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Originally posted by johnc View PostA certain sense of me feels that there's something wrong with this. Canonical is criticized for not contributing upstream. But when they do offer something upstream, it should be excluded if it doesn't fit the community's "vision" of what the preferred software should be.
The politics involved is pretty ridiculous, and I can understand why a company wants to just play the lone ranger role.
Why should these upstream projects have the maintenance burden (for something that is Ubuntu-centric), when most of them are working towards a Wayland-centric, standardized stack across Gnu/linux? (which canonical is interfering with). ~ Upstream should just continue in the direction they are going (Wayland) and let Canonical deal with their own problems.
Lots of companies maintain patchsets out of tree, when their goals aren't inline with upstream or incompatible to some degree. I don't see any reason for Canonical to be any different.
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Originally posted by johnc View PostA certain sense of me feels that there's something wrong with this. Canonical is criticized for not contributing upstream. But when they do offer something upstream, it should be excluded if it doesn't fit the community's "vision" of what the preferred software should be.
And other projects shouldn't take any patch in. It adds complexity and maintenance. Imagine having to support half a dozen display servers.
Example: If a create a new type of executable incompatible with Linux. Should the Linux kernel just take my patch to support my executable?
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Originally posted by talvik View PostThat's what I've said. Having Mir support doesn't necessarily translate in Wayland support or the other way around.
If nVidia produces an EGL *certified* driver (ie: using the EGL specification) then Wayland should work just fine. It does not matter that Canonical may be using additional (EGL) extensions that Wayland is not. (since Wayland doesn't need those anyway).
again, you didn't understand thomas' blog, you also don't seem to grasp what i am saying about EGL and specifications and are continuing to spread FUD.
use your brain dude.Last edited by ninez; 07 March 2013, 12:16 PM.
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Originally posted by ninez View PostRead what i wrote, it's not the same thing, dude.
If nVidia produces an EGL *certified* driver (ie: using the EGL specification) then Wayland should work just fine. It does not matter that Canonical may be using additional (EGL) extensions that Wayland is not. (since Wayland doesn't need those anyway).
again, you didn't understand thomas' blog, you also don't seem to grasp what i am saying about EGL and specifications and are continuing to spread FUD.
use your brain dude.
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Originally posted by ninez View PostIf nVidia produces an EGL *certified* driver (ie: using the EGL specification) then Wayland should work just fine. It does not matter that Canonical may be using additional (EGL) extensions that Wayland is not. (since Wayland doesn't need those anyway).
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Yes, wouldn't it be nice if free software was the norm, not the exception?
But how are we going to get there?
If it is by selling our core values, then is it really worth it?
I don't want Linux with adware, spyware, EULA, DRM, proprietary software, proprietary protocols, binary blobs, bundled software, browser toolbars, software that modify browser start page, backdoors, etc.
Don't forget about transparency.
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Originally posted by ninez View PostI hope they convince nvidia, but on the flipside, hope canonical has to maintain all of their Mir support out of tree for the various toolkits. (no one even commented on the MESA mailing list about their Mir patchset, hopefully this is a sign that upstream doesn't appreciate what Canonical is doing with Mir). If that is the case, i hope GTK+ and Qt do the same.
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