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GNOME 3.13.2 Temporarily Depends On Systemd
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Originally posted by prodigy_ View PostForks don't happen by magic. First of all, you need people to maintain a project of such scale. Do you keep up with the news? systemd is 550k lines already. It's horribly bloated but even if the first post-fork goal will be (as it should be) trimming all the fat it's still a lot of work. You can't just comment out everything you don't want. And this is especially true in case of systemd because the developers went out of their way to ensure it's a dependency for as much other stuff as possible.
About the bloat: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg...endencies.html
It's extremely easy to get entangled in the systemd cobweb. But getting out is going to be very complicated and very time consuming.
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Originally posted by prodigy_ View PostIt's extremely easy to get entangled in the systemd cobweb. But getting out is going to be very complicated and very time consuming.
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Originally posted by prodigy_ View PostIt offers tons of bloat and useless crap not available elsewhere, yes. I've never denied that.
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I almost asked around but googled instead and found these somewhat comforting comments:
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostSo if it is useless, then by definition only groups under the control of Red Hat would be using it, right? Therefore, it shouldn't be an issue porting for anyone besides Red Hat, which you are claiming wouldn't port anyway. So by your logic, it shouldn't matter.
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Back to topic though: you don't have to try to persuade me. Believe it or not, I tested systemd-based distros and I've found them extremely irritating bordering on unmanageable. So my point of view is based on my own real life experience. It's not going to change just because some fanboys on Phoronix are jumping out of their pants trying to convert everyone to their newfound systemd religion.Last edited by prodigy_; 05 June 2014, 04:10 PM.
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Originally posted by prodigy_ View PostIt's not going to change just because some fanboys on Phoronix are jumping out of their pants trying to convert everyone to their newfound systemd religion.
I know you're not stupid based on your input in unrelated threads, but boy do you dig your heels in when someone even mentions systemd. Thus far your answers have pretty much boiled down to "it's too different and I don't like it and there's scary crimson headwear everywhere." Not that it matters, but I for one find systemd quite interesting. It will certainly make my job a bit easier.
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