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Thread: GNOME Wayland Is Approved For Fedora 21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Oliver View Post
    As a KDE user I'm saddened that KDE prioritised Qt 5 over switching to Wayland.
    Qt5 supports Wayland.

    Qt4 does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Oliver View Post
    As a KDE user I'm saddened that KDE prioritised Qt 5 over switching to Wayland. [Ö] Gnome have put most effort into Wayland.
    That's because Gnome is irresponsible by beginning such a huge migration after a stable release series started.

    KDE is doing the right thing: A huge migration as part of a new major version. Maybe Plasma 2.0.0 won't be completely Wayland-capable but the major groundwork has been laid and complete Wayland support will be nothing but a few bugfixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    That's because Gnome is irresponsible by beginning such a huge migration after a stable release series started.

    KDE is doing the right thing: A huge migration as part of a new major version. Maybe Plasma 2.0.0 won't be completely Wayland-capable but the major groundwork has been laid and complete Wayland support will be nothing but a few bugfixes.
    Actually, GNOME has put way more time in GTK3 support than wayland. It took how many years before they finished GNOME shell? Right now KDE is doing both transition at the same time, and they are doing it pretty fast. Focusing plasma2 and Qt5 is one step closer to wayland, and now every KF5 applications will be able to run on wayland with the right backend compiled, the very one thing that misses is Kwin compatibility and plasma2 port.

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    Hopefully this will put some pressure to mozilla and others in order to get their apps running without XWayland.

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    chromium 35 will support wayland by aura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gufide View Post
    I definitely wait for that monkey suit
    Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBML6zuUpK0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    That's because Gnome is irresponsible by beginning such a huge migration after a stable release series started.

    KDE is doing the right thing: A huge migration as part of a new major version. Maybe Plasma 2.0.0 won't be completely Wayland-capable but the major groundwork has been laid and complete Wayland support will be nothing but a few bugfixes.
    "KF5 will have Wayland support [. . .] on par with Microsoft Windows or OS X support."

    "For the workspaces itís more complex. Our aim for the first release of Plasma Next has never been to fully support Wayland or do the migration to Wayland."

    "As we are entering the alpha release state shortly we can be quite certain that the Plasma desktop shell will not support Wayland."

    KDE. Right. GNOME. Wrong. Grunt.

    And whatever little mental jumps you have to do to justify that are a-OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jern View Post
    "KF5 will have Wayland support [. . .] on par with Microsoft Windows or OS X support."

    "For the workspaces itís more complex. Our aim for the first release of Plasma Next has never been to fully support Wayland or do the migration to Wayland."

    "As we are entering the alpha release state shortly we can be quite certain that the Plasma desktop shell will not support Wayland."

    KDE. Right. GNOME. Wrong. Grunt.

    And whatever little mental jumps you have to do to justify that are a-OK.
    well fanboism apart, both Gnome and KDE are doing the right thing, after all a migration like this is anything but easy and both desktop backend have to be solid before a production grade migration can be done, remember wayland set the heavy lift on the client side (GTK3/Qt5 in this case). so if the backend is not stable the desktop experience will be a disaster.

    In the case of KDE their first priority is Qt5 migration and slim KDElibs, so the first release will probably be for the brave of heart and then probably for 5.1 wayland will come since most of the work is done(they dont wanna chase 2 rabbits at once)

    So until at least KF5.2 is released is better people for stay with KDE4 series since due the migration they sorta make it an LTS release to ease the migration process(maybe gnome should have done this when 3.0 was released)

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    Is there still time to take a Wayland-as-default decision? When do the proposals wrap-up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipe13 View Post
    Part of me was hoping the delayed F-21 release would allow the team to focus on mature stability, rather than bleedingedgekitchensinkcandystoreitis. But then it wouldn't be Fedora, so what would be the point?
    Bleeding edge is what makes Fedora interesting and also what makes it frustrating.

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