Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 25

Thread: X.Org Server 1.16 ABI Breakage Causes Concern

  1. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    619

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rikkinho View Post
    the problem is the xorg, we need a new display server. always problems with xorg support over the years, to much changes version by version without gains for users...
    The problem is nvidia and their binary blob. It's not the first time their driver have problems. In Kubuntu 13.10 I had black screen whenever I installed custom kernel. nvidia sucks, but their driver is little better than catalyst. Nvidia have problems? I don't care, they can even disappear.

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Porto
    Posts
    247

    Default well is your pc only

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawlerson View Post
    The problem is nvidia and their binary blob. It's not the first time their driver have problems. In Kubuntu 13.10 I had black screen whenever I installed custom kernel. nvidia sucks, but their driver is little better than catalyst. Nvidia have problems? I don't care, they can even disappear.
    is your pc problem, when i use ubuntu 13.10 i install nvidia non free with bumblebee. with prime and normal in a desktop all working well, nvidia provides the only good driver in linux world

  3. #13
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    542

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawlerson View Post
    In Kubuntu 13.10 I had black screen whenever I installed custom kernel.
    no comment...

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    55

    Default

    I do agree that their driver being proprietary is the main concern in many cases.
    Wayland and kms support, Xorg development, graphical glitches with compositing starting with nVidia 334.21 (still there 2 months after the update), compatibility with OpenCL (broken during 3 weeks by the time 334.21 was released), etc.
    So yeah, an open development would have all this avoided, most certainly.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    119

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rikkinho View Post
    nvidia provides the only good driver in linux world
    LOL. Batshit crazy or what.

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Linuxland
    Posts
    5,185

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sireangelus View Post
    there is no need for qa in that case, cause even if the abi changes, when you compile xorg/mesa it's all ready and done. Open source drivers do not suffer from abi breakage/api breakage, cause the necessary changes are made alongside the api/abi at the same time, instead the binary blob needs constant catching up.
    Are you familiar with QA testing? There most certainly is a need for it even for changes like this. "It compiles" does not mean "new bugs didn't appear".

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    239

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawlerson View Post
    The problem is nvidia and their binary blob. It's not the first time their driver have problems. In Kubuntu 13.10 I had black screen whenever I installed custom kernel. nvidia sucks, but their driver is little better than catalyst. Nvidia have problems? I don't care, they can even disappear.
    You need to install a module for every kernel you have, only the userland part is shared(which is the largest).

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    619

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Thaodan View Post
    You need to install a module for every kernel you have, only the userland part is shared(which is the largest).
    Isn't dkms supposed to do the job?

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    619

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by gens View Post
    no comment...
    By custom kernels I mean the ones from Ubuntu kernel ppa. It worked till Kubuntu 13.10.

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    239

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawlerson View Post
    Isn't dkms supposed to do the job?
    If you wan't, I prefer to make a package.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •