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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
    [Xamarin Studio is] just the officially branded version that doesn't support linux.
    Maybe you can make a case for covering MonoDevelop, but products like Xamarin Studio that flat out do not support Linux shouldn't be featured on a Linux site. Does Phoronix cover the new version of Visual Studio or Excel or Windows Media Player or iTunes?

    Even MonoDevelop treats Linux as a second class OS. Look at the main download page (http://monodevelop.com/Download). It says "Select your Operating System" with only choices of Windows and Mac. Linux options are lower on the page and if you click them it says, "Packages for MonoDevelop 4.2.2 not yet available. The latest available version is MonoDevelop 2.6.0.1". Clearly, Linux isn't remotely a priority to them.


    Other amazing, arguably better IDEs, like JetBrains IDEs such as IntelliJ and Android Studio, and RubyMine, etc have 100% full Linux support. They have clear downloads directly from their web site. Linux always gets betas and new releases on the same day as Windows and Mac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanLamb View Post
    Maybe you can make a case for covering MonoDevelop, but products like Xamarin Studio that flat out do not support Linux shouldn't be featured on a Linux site. Does Phoronix cover the new version of Visual Studio or Excel or Windows Media Player or iTunes?

    Even MonoDevelop treats Linux as a second class OS. Look at the main download page (http://monodevelop.com/Download). It says "Select your Operating System" with only choices of Windows and Mac. Linux options are lower on the page and if you click them it says, "Packages for MonoDevelop 4.2.2 not yet available. The latest available version is MonoDevelop 2.6.0.1". Clearly, Linux isn't remotely a priority to them.


    Other amazing, arguably better IDEs, like JetBrains IDEs such as IntelliJ and Android Studio, and RubyMine, etc have 100% full Linux support. They have clear downloads directly from their web site. Linux always gets betas and new releases on the same day as Windows and Mac.
    So? The same is true for most project. It is idiotic to try make distro package as upstream developer. "Linus" subsurface also only have package for WIndows and Mac and compilation instructions for linux....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akka View Post
    So? The same is true for most project. It is idiotic to try make distro package as upstream developer. "Linus" subsurface also only have package for WIndows and Mac and compilation instructions for linux....
    I am not sure if it is idiotic ... commercial editors like Sublime Text are friction less. I think QtCreator also has a pre-compiled package ... gotta love when something just works

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    Quote Originally Posted by RushPL View Post
    I am not sure if it is idiotic ... commercial editors like Sublime Text are friction less. I think QtCreator also has a pre-compiled package ... gotta love when something just works
    Sublime is not open source.
    Qt and digia is a much bigger company than something like xamarin. Yet I bet most of their users on linux use the version provided by the distro or build from source if they need something not provided by the standard binaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akka View Post
    So? The same is true for most project. It is idiotic to try make distro package as upstream developer. "Linus" subsurface also only have package for WIndows and Mac and compilation instructions for linux....
    No. Subsurface has clear, accurate, up to date instructions on their main website for Linux users. Monodevelop does not. Monodevelop lists a wildly out of date Ubuntu version that suggests they don't care about Ubuntu Linux and put very little effort into it.

    Providing only source for Linux vs providing binaries for Win/Mac, like the way Subsurface works is fine. Giving Linux users a second rate experience, like Monodevelop is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanLamb View Post
    No. Subsurface has clear, accurate, up to date instructions on their main website for Linux users. Monodevelop does not. Monodevelop lists a wildly out of date Ubuntu version that suggests they don't care about Ubuntu Linux and put very little effort into it.

    Providing only source for Linux vs providing binaries for Win/Mac, like the way Subsurface works is fine. Giving Linux users a second rate experience, like Monodevelop is not.
    So you are crying because they have a old ubuntu package link. The debian link look correct.
    And just like subsurface they tell you how you get the source.

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