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    Cool Asrock Q1900B-ITX

    Arrived today - a new motherboard with Intel Bay Trail-D J1900 CPU. Quad core, and on this board it supports up to 16 GB of RAM (which is much better than 8 for running few virtual machines in Virtualbox ). ToDo now is to build it and then to launch a lot of phoronix benchmarks, measure power usage (the CPU is 10W TDP) and so on

    First pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/riklau...7644284426734/

    Board: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Q1900B-ITX/
    Case: http://loopint.com/products.html

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    Default no AES

    Bay Trail-D does not support AES-NI, which is a must-have for speeding up SSL/HTTPS based apps (most of internet apps).

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    Yes, they do appear heavily cut when compared toother intels. I'll check how it actually works. Xubuntu booted quickly. Everything fanless and low on power.

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    First quick comparison http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...PL-1404206PL73 - it did fail in OpenSSL benchmark vs E350

    I wonder what it did with PHP Now doing comparison vs the AMD Semprons, next vs the Intel Haswell benchamarks presented not so long ago and then some custom (RAM speed, and such). OpenArena is playing now and the computer is using 37W of power (without display).
    Last edited by riklaunim; 04-25-2014 at 03:36 PM.

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    Very interesting riklaunim !

    According to Intel website the J1900 does support AES-NI, maybe there is some detection issue?
    http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...-overview.html

    I'm very interested in the stability of the Asrock board and amount of power used...

    Do you have the link to the J1900 openbenchmarking? (link in post above is "AMD FUSION E-350 APU UBUNTU 12.10 LINUX")

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnarly View Post
    Very interesting riklaunim !
    According to Intel website the J1900 does support AES-NI, maybe there is some detection issue?
    http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...-overview.html
    No it does not support aes-ni , all non-E and non-Z series chips (eg, J1750, J1800, J1850, J1900, J2850... do not have AES-NI) ;D.

    http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/th.../#post-1074069

    And there are truecrypt benchmarks on the net which show difference, for example Athlon 5350 (which have aes-ni) vs J1900 (lack of aes-ni), so Athlon is more then 4 times faster there :

    Benchmarks: TrueCrypt 7.1 (AES + AES-NI)

    Using the ingrained benchmark TrueCrypt 7.1, we determine how fast the processors AES encryption calculations can perform. These are used in many spot, for example, to send data over secure Internet connections (HTTPS / SSL). For this second run we have AES-NI for processors that support enabled.

    The AMD Athlon 5350 supports AES-NI, the Celeron J1900 does not. It results in a performance difference of more than a factor of 4.
    http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/5330...1-aes-+-aes-ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnarly View Post
    Do you have the link to the J1900 openbenchmarking? (link in post above is "AMD FUSION E-350 APU UBUNTU 12.10 LINUX")
    The title is correct as it's a comparison. J1900 is the third system in that test.

    Two more:
    http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...PL-1404175SO11
    http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...PL-1404206SO61

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    Quote Originally Posted by riklaunim View Post
    The title is correct as it's a comparison. J1900 is the third system in that test.

    Two more:
    http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...PL-1404175SO11
    http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...PL-1404206SO61
    Pretty interesting results, the only reason I got a Athlon 5350 + AM1B-ITX instead of Baytrails is because Intel seems to slow on the gallium side. (And I'm a fool for fancy shiny pebbles)

    I don't think I've seen anyone mention if the J1900 supports H264/VP8+ hardware decode however? Intel's specs certainly seem ambiguous on the specifics, including the graphics core itself.

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    It runs like it has H264/VP8+ and AES-NI . in games "great" too... pretty unbelievable results to me .

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    Multimedia: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...PL-1404268PL01

    Kernel 3.15 and Oibaf Mesa: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...PL-1404250PL78 - doesn't help really


    In the fanless design at high load it got up to 67C at horizontal orientation:
    Code:
    acpitz-virtual-0
    Adapter: Virtual device
    temp1:        +26.8C  (crit = +90.0C)
    
    coretemp-isa-0000
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    Core 0:       +65.0C  (high = +105.0C, crit = +105.0C)
    Core 1:       +65.0C  (high = +105.0C, crit = +105.0C)
    Core 2:       +67.0C  (high = +105.0C, crit = +105.0C)
    Core 3:       +67.0C  (high = +105.0C, crit = +105.0C)
    
    nct6776-isa-0290
    Adapter: ISA adapter
    Vcore:          +0.81 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
    in1:            +1.86 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
    AVCC:           +3.34 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
    +3.3V:          +3.33 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
    in4:            +0.94 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
    in5:            +1.73 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
    in6:            +0.82 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
    3VSB:           +3.46 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
    Vbat:           +3.34 V  (min =  +2.70 V, max =  +3.63 V)
    fan1:             0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
    fan2:             0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
    SYSTIN:         +48.0C  (high =  +0.0C, hyst =  +0.0C)  ALARM  sensor = thermistor
    CPUTIN:         +57.5C  (high = +80.0C, hyst = +75.0C)  sensor = thermistor
    AUXTIN:         +41.0C  (high = +80.0C, hyst = +75.0C)  sensor = thermistor
    PCH_CHIP_TEMP:   +0.0C  
    PCH_CPU_TEMP:    +0.0C  
    PCH_MCH_TEMP:    +0.0C  
    intrusion0:    ALARM
    intrusion1:    ALARM
    beep_enable:   disabled

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