05-01-2014, 03:24 PM
1. I'm not your sunshine.
Originally Posted by scjet
2. Sure, you always have to consider who is writing and if this person is in a position to say something sensible on the very topic.
05-01-2014, 09:32 PM
My god, the shear ignorance displayed here is staggering.
Originally Posted by scjet
05-01-2014, 10:06 PM
Seems to me systemd is being persecuted
All this hate because someone dares to come up with new boot code! I've been playing with systemd for the past week, it's been like a new toy to me to learn my way around. Since I mantain a private package for unlocking multiple encrypted disks, I figured why not install systemd, learn my way around it, and then port my package to work with it.
OK, here's my results: With systemd on the root volume and the older Upstart/initramfs-tools initrd, it works fine so long as there are no invalid but present entries in /etc/crypttab (not used by my package. With a systemd using version of Dracut instead, I can unlock all disks and boot, but not with my own code and a single passphrase call yet, nor have I gotten my custom Plymouth theme working in Dracut's initrd yet.
It's been an interesting hackfest, and I do expect to get my code working the systemd way, probably by having my script check for all devices present before calling the passphrase to unlock any of them, exiting non-zero if any have yet to appear so it can recycle as a Dracut hook. If I can't get the hooks to work, I will have to find out how to write a generator that would work like the cryptsetup/systemd generator but call the passphrase my way to unlock all the disks at once. I expect sucess, not having it yet means I haven't learned enough about systemd and dracut yet, it does NOT mean they suck!
I benchmarked a dracut/sustemd boot into a unencrypted test partition on an SSD at 13 seconds with a 4.5 GHZ AMD FX-8120. I think systemd has a lot of potential to be a very fast booter and surely the various new code bugs will be swatted one at a time as the code matures.
05-02-2014, 06:04 AM
Understatement of the year :P
Originally Posted by Luke
If it were "new boot code", we'd have similar flamewars over the suckless init, upstart, s6 init, plan9 init, and others.
05-02-2014, 06:55 AM
Well there would certainly be some flamewars if every distro was switching to suckless init... But I don't see that happening anytime soon
05-02-2014, 07:00 AM
05-02-2014, 10:09 AM
if you really want to know i thought they learned from their past bollocks
Originally Posted by droste
now drop the prejudice, it' s decremental to a healthy society
05-02-2014, 11:06 AM
05-02-2014, 12:55 PM
Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat
05-02-2014, 01:24 PM
Not sure what you are trying to say, you already proofed my point