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    Default NVIDIA Reiterates That It's Working On Wayland Support

    Phoronix: NVIDIA Reiterates That It's Working On Wayland Support

    While their proprietary Linux graphics driver right now only supports X11-based environments, NVIDIA has talked in the past about their plans to eventually support Wayland, and they've reaffirmed their intentions this week to supporting Wayland by their closed-source Linux GPU driver...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY0Njc

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    LOL.

    I know that spectators dictating FLOSS devs what to do are stupid.

    But another developer doing same, and at the same time saying, but I can not explain why....

    Nvidia FAIL.


    (PS It seam that they will have to come up with patches to XWayland when they do have some code they can share. No big deal. Wont play with others, others ....)

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    I don't see why the DDX used by the open source drivers matters to nVidia.

    AFAIK it is not mandated to use the 'one-and-only' Wayland DDX, rather nVidia can add Wayland support to their own proprietary DDX to be used with the closed-source driver.

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    Then you see why open sourcing is the way to go NVIDIA... ranting when you're working hidden in your corner is not the right path to walk in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amehaye View Post
    I don't see why the DDX used by the open source drivers matters to nVidia.

    AFAIK it is not mandated to use the 'one-and-only' Wayland DDX, rather nVidia can add Wayland support to their own proprietary DDX to be used with the closed-source driver.
    I think NVIDIAs current work on XWayland aimed at a certain way XWayland would be implemented in X11. Now with the new approach which sounds great, since you no longer need a patched xf86-video-{nouveau,intel,radeon} driver it has a drawback for NVIDIA. I'd assume GLX direct rendering would be needed to have games that don't use SDL 2 work on Wayland.

    I'm surprised that NVIDIA is already working on XWayland support at this point with no xwayland code merged into mainline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: NVIDIA Reiterates That It's Working On Wayland Support

    While their proprietary Linux graphics driver right now only supports X11-based environments, NVIDIA has talked in the past about their plans to eventually support Wayland, and they've reaffirmed their intentions this week to supporting Wayland by their closed-source Linux GPU driver...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY0Njc
    Oh yeah... I'd be working and re-iterating that I'm working on Wayland/EGL support if Intel was going to eat my breakfast, lunch and dinner on the business PCs/laptops, and now with Iris Pro getting better, possibly even gaming rigs...

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    One aspect of the introduction and transition to Wayland that's being ignored is the impact on distributed computing projects. There's are many people who dedicate their computer cpu and gpu resources to projects via BOINC and World Community Grid who use closed source proprietary drivers due to project use of CUDA or OpenCL. For people doing gpu work for BOINC or World Community Grid the open source drivers are not an option. As distributions start implementing Wayland these users will be forced to make a difficult choice - continue to run an obsolete release version, switch to windows, or give up on gpu computing. This would be a hard blow to the scientific research being conducted by the distributed computing projects and significantly slow progress being made in many fields of research.

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    I'm pretty sure CUDA/OpenCL software mostly rely on the kernel bits of the drivers and low-level libraries that don't need a graphic server to be loaded by the kernel. The Tesla thing from Nvidia is not mostly run on windows, so for pure GPU computing, I guess it's the same. And then, we're not going to kill x.org this soon. Even at 1.4 version, Wayland is still considered a work-in-progress architecture (despite the stable ABI), so seeing projects having some trouble with it (see "classic" DEs like GNOME and KDE, and now the Nvidia driver) is not something "alarming". Time will see finalization of most of the work. And so GPU computing as well.

    As a side note : it should be interesting to see OpenCL benchmark between cloed and open source drivers (at least for AMD, until nouveau devs are able to unleash Fermi+ frequencies)

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    As soon as a wayland binary blob comes over the switch will be instant!

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    Open up or die! Intel go go go!

    Btw AMD is not putting resouces into radeon and keeps dragging catalyst EXACTLY because of nvidia! That was mentioned by AMD themself.
    Last edited by brosis; 03-29-2014 at 06:24 AM.

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