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    Phoronix: Working Towards Lower OpenGL Driver Overhead

    Today at the Game Developer's Conference was an interesting session with OpenGL developers from Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA jointly talking about reducing OpenGL driver overhead...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYzODY

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    AMD's changing Linux strategy doesn't tell us much. They change their minds when it comes to Linux support every six months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchy View Post
    AMD's changing Linux strategy doesn't tell us much. They change their minds when it comes to Linux support every six months.
    i like to see they supporting more and more opensource driver... and what about mantle? another fail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikkinho View Post
    i like to see they supporting more and more opensource driver... and what about mantle? another fail?
    there is no point in mantle on linux. right now, their opengl is still subpar and i would prefer them fixing that 1st and then add another unfinished layer. adding subpar mantle which would be probably beta until 2019 would just add to bugs on amd unless you prefer having buggy gl+beta mantle

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    Quote Originally Posted by justmy2cents View Post
    there is no point in mantle on linux. right now, their opengl is still subpar and i would prefer them fixing that 1st and then add another unfinished layer. adding subpar mantle which would be probably beta until 2019 would just add to bugs on amd unless you prefer having buggy gl+beta mantle
    i don't care about mantle =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by justmy2cents View Post
    there is no point in mantle on linux. right now, their opengl is still subpar and i would prefer them fixing that 1st and then add another unfinished layer. adding subpar mantle which would be probably beta until 2019 would just add to bugs on amd unless you prefer having buggy gl+beta mantle
    Well...considering the fact that 2 major game engines are going to give full support on mantle (Frostbite and Cryengine), it would be a dream to get mantle on linux. And appearantly AMD is working on it... one can only hope that they will make it good and not a bad beta version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vein View Post
    Well...considering the fact that 2 major game engines are going to give full support on mantle (Frostbite and Cryengine), it would be a dream to get mantle on linux. And appearantly AMD is working on it... one can only hope that they will make it good and not a bad beta version...
    Do you really think a game would be released for a platform where only one card manufacturer would be supported? AMD porting mantle to Linux is of zero use with respect to having Frosbite games on Linux as long as Frosbite does not support some other API available for Intel and Nvidia GPU on Linux (that, or Intel and Nvidia support of mantle on Linux, which might not happen just tomorrow).

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    Quote Originally Posted by justmy2cents View Post
    there is no point in mantle on linux. right now, their opengl is still subpar and i would prefer them fixing that 1st and then add another unfinished layer. adding subpar mantle which would be probably beta until 2019 would just add to bugs on amd unless you prefer having buggy gl+beta mantle
    Fortunately for us all, you don't determine priorities for AMD and Game Developers. Sorry, but the resources for OpenGL and Mantle will continue moving forward at what financially best suits AMD, not you.

    That's good because OpenGL improvements in Mesa for AMD, Nvidia, Intel aren't making those three big bucks. Gaming is making AMD and Nvidia money and Intel can afford to dump money down a rat hole slowly improving OpenGL for Mesa. They're competing for other markets.

    Your 2019 is non-factual hogwash. Game Devs dictate when Mantle is ready for Linux and the more they move to Linux the more resources will be getting Mantle optimized for Non-Windows platforms.

    Even OS X will help considerably getting Mantle ported more rapidly, now with AMD's expansion into Apple hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikkinho View Post
    i like to see they supporting more and more opensource driver... and what about mantle? another fail?
    I'd rather see some consistent behavior from them. It doesn't matter if it's negative or positive, I just want them to make up their minds already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchy View Post
    I'd rather see some consistent behavior from them. It doesn't matter if it's negative or positive, I just want them to make up their minds already.
    i give up from amd gpu long time ago, they have the worst support! and its not only in linux side, at least radeon r600 is in good shape for old apu's

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