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    Default Sailfish OS 1.0 Announced, Sailfish Soon On Android

    Phoronix: Sailfish OS 1.0 Released, Sailfish Soon On Android

    The Finnish-based Jolla has announced Sailfish OS 1.0 in time for Mobile World Congress and have also committed to soon delivering this mobile Linux OS to Android devices...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYxMTE

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    Sailfish OS "1.0" will be released at the start of March.

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    Among the hardware noted were the Google Nexus, Samsung Galaxy, and Sony Xperia.
    Interesting, but only Xperia models released by Sony, not Sony Ericsson (like Xperia Pro)?

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    Just... meh. If I wanted an OS with some parts open and lots of parts closed I would just stick to Android.

    We already have to have to put up with closed drivers, now people are trying to just get the kernell and the toolkits and then close almost everything else? Of course one could argue that since Steam and all its games are closed source Valve is basically the same, but the thing is Valve is doing historical stuff for Linux. What's the value in Sailfish? Just "more competition", "choice", and whatever. Bleh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nll_a View Post
    Just... meh. If I wanted an OS with some parts open and lots of parts closed I would just stick to Android.

    We already have to have to put up with closed drivers, now people are trying to just get the kernell and the toolkits and then close almost everything else? Of course one could argue that since Steam and all its games are closed source Valve is basically the same, but the thing is Valve is doing historical stuff for Linux. What's the value in Sailfish? Just "more competition", "choice", and whatever. Bleh.
    They might open more in the future. Ie. the browser was open sourced recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89c51 View Post
    They might open more in the future. Ie. the browser was open sourced recently.
    Still, personally I wouldn't invest in a platform just based on hope that they might start opening things up in the future. I'd just get a Firefox OS or Ubuntu phone already. I mean, every other mobile Linux OS seems to have some interesting appeal, but Sailfish is just being sold as the sucessor to MeeGo, and that just doesn't feel enough to gain traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nll_a View Post
    Still, personally I wouldn't invest in a platform just based on hope that they might start opening things up in the future. I'd just get a Firefox OS or Ubuntu phone already. I mean, every other mobile Linux OS seems to have some interesting appeal, but Sailfish is just being sold as the sucessor to MeeGo, and that just doesn't feel enough to gain traction.
    A nice gesture based OS is the appeal to it. In some stuff it's not there yet. (localization, app ecosystem, bugs here and there, some features missing) But things are getting better with each -monthly- update. Another thing that should appeal to you is that is as damn as close to a modern Linux desktop. Systemd (+systemd-user), wayland etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89c51 View Post
    Another thing that should appeal to you is that is as damn as close to a modern Linux desktop. Systemd (+systemd-user), wayland etc.
    Well, I'd argue it's just as distant from an actual Linux desktop. I think it's the use of open source components which makes something closer to Linux distros, not merely the use of kernels, init systems and compositor protocols alone. It's actually quite the opposite: platforms based on proprietary software running on top of an open core are, as a matter of fact, a very troublesome tendency in Linux development. And from the looks of it it's not just me who thinks this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nll_a View Post
    Well, I'd argue it's just as distant from an actual Linux desktop. I think it's the use of open source components which makes something closer to Linux distros, not merely the use of kernels, init systems and compositor protocols alone. It's actually quite the opposite: platforms based on proprietary software running on top of an open core are, as a matter of fact, a very troublesome tendency in Linux development. And from the looks of it it's not just me who thinks this way.
    Companies tend to be more focused on developing something for the consumer than the FOSS community. Ie. see all the Bullish project that you can't get things done with them. Hence i don't mind closed software that works on top of open cores. They have to make money after all. Also AFAIK they contribute back to some projects. And i am also OK withe people wanting everything open but jolla at this moment is not a phone for them. It might be in the future. And i hope the same.

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    Jolla contributes back a lot to the Mer/Nemo project which is fully opensource. It's not fair to compare it to Android. Google took Linux and made a lot of modifications which after years started to arrive back in upstream, Jolla is instead actively working on the open source stack. Go look at the projects in https://github.com/nemomobile, for instance. You'll see much of that work is done by Jolla employees.

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