Ubuntu's 3.13 kernel misses 2 possible UVD patches, but one thing should be noted, all vdpau libs that can be compiled from mesa are only 1.3 mb compressed, you can forget a size issue. I created a package with only vdpau libs called libg3dvl-mesa similar to the Ubuntu PPA but without xvmc and everybody can look at the deb size, thats usually the size a live iso gets bigger.
Kanotix has nightly iso images with that mesa called "special", which have got binary drivers in gfxdetect mode and latest stable mesa (with needed uvd patches). Very simple to verify if it would work...
Packages installed you see here:
The current trusty ISO is 909mb 64bit and 922mb 32bit this extra size excuse is bullshit
Originally Posted by TheSoulz
Just a friendly reminder that those are DAILY. They do not worry about squeezing it really far down until the actual release.
Originally Posted by DDF420
That being said, yes, the size argument is retarded.
what the big problem?
what the big problem? i install arch last and nothing come in iso, i nedd to build the system... i install today windows 7 in laptop i need to install every bullshit driver network, video, etc... i don t see what the big question here about this and what is the "real" problem. no OS come working out of box well even with pre-installed windows mac, etc. mt sister samsung laptop with windows 8 for example, the sound drivers don t work (i don t believed when i see it to)
Game changing in what way?
Originally Posted by curaga
I think the out of the box experience is important, i usually give hints which ISO would fit best for a hd install for a specific use case and hardware. If you need more customisation it is easy to build images with different apps/drivers preinstalled. Usually i am done with a fully working Linux hd install incl. some tools I can not add to the standard ISO images in less than 30 mins when installed from usb key (with nighly images you save the time to run an update later). In that time you might have installed Win 8.1 but you still run updates and install 3 d drivers, and you did not have time to install an office app or 3rd party browser/mail client yet. Win 7 Sp1 would be a much huger pain to update after install. But you seem to have plenty of time for your OS installs...
I know every one is upset about vdpau not being including in ubuntu.. But look at the bright side.. You get 8 megabytes of free space to use instead! WOW! That's like 8,388,608 bytes of infinite space! Think of all the pixel-art and text files you will be able to store on your 4TB hard-drive with all that extra space......amazing! Thanks ubuntu! You always know exactly what your users want!..
You miss the point Bacon, its 8MB's they save on the LiveCD's, which they apparently are still trying to force onto an 800mb CD..
Originally Posted by Baconmon
Could Ubuntu not just offer two options?
A CD size image for most basic functionality, and a second larger image, up to the size of of DVD that has the best selection of software and options enabled for the best user experience.
i apreciate they keep it clean but not including stuff like this is bad.
Originally Posted by Ericg
if its something that isnt critial i would stand on theyr side, this is not the case