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    I wouldn't mind a slower release cycle, I find myself constantly on the older release cause a new one came too fast. The devs are discussing switching to 12months from current 8, which I would find a lot more convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doweeez View Post
    Aww, this sucks balls. Just jumped on this distro, and SUSE developers are abandoning it.

    No one is abandoning anything, the openSUSE team will be working in something else, namely the OBS and openQA for the next 8 months, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crrodriguez View Post
    No one is abandoning anything, the openSUSE team will be working in something else, namely the OBS and openQA for the next 8 months, that's all.
    There's no functional difference between "abandoning it" and "we're still here, we just aren't going to be working on it". Either way, they're not going to be contributing like they once did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcalde View Post
    There's no functional difference between "abandoning it" and "we're still here, we just aren't going to be working on it". Either way, they're not going to be contributing like they once did.
    Read the mailing list...
    1. nobody is abandoning anything
    2. the OpenSUSE Team @SUSE is changing their work focus from releases to more lower level stuff, the number of paid staff stays the same
    3. the OpenSUSE Team @SUSE is not the only team there working on OpenSUSE, there are many other that contribute too
    4. the change is that the OpenSUSE community is going to be totally in charge of new releases (which can be good or bad depending on how it turns out)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber Killer View Post
    Read the mailing list...
    1. nobody is abandoning anything
    2. the OpenSUSE Team @SUSE is changing their work focus from releases to more lower level stuff, the number of paid staff stays the same
    3. the OpenSUSE Team @SUSE is not the only team there working on OpenSUSE, there are many other that contribute too
    4. the change is that the OpenSUSE community is going to be totally in charge of new releases (which can be good or bad depending on how it turns out)
    5. This is only for the next release. Once the lower-level improvements are in finished the paid developers will return to their regular duties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber Killer View Post
    Read the mailing list...
    1. nobody is abandoning anything
    2. the OpenSUSE Team @SUSE is changing their work focus from releases to more lower level stuff, the number of paid staff stays the same
    You seem to have missed the part where I said this is functionally equivalent. "The police are abandoning my neighborhood" and "The amount of officers is still the same; we're just not responding to calls in your neighborhood anymore" result in the identical impact to me; they're indistinguishable. And how relevant to OpenSUSE users is it that "the number of paid [SUSE employees] stays the same" if they're not working on OpenSUSE anymore? That's still a net loss of people working on OpenSUSE. In fact, by focusing their effort on OBS and OpenQA, they are indeed abandoning the distro proper. Anything else is just a word game.

    >3. the OpenSUSE Team @SUSE is not the only team there working on OpenSUSE, there are many other that contribute too

    Agreed, but this is about the impact it will have on OpenSUSE releases.

    >4. the change is that the OpenSUSE community is going to be totally in charge of new releases (which can be good or bad depending on how it turns out)

    It's more than just that they're in charge; they'll be the only ones contributing towards it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    5. This is only for the next release. Once the lower-level improvements are in finished the paid developers will return to their regular duties.
    True. We hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcalde View Post
    And how relevant to OpenSUSE users is it that "the number of paid [SUSE employees] stays the same" if they're not working on OpenSUSE anymore? That's still a net loss of people working on OpenSUSE. In fact, by focusing their effort on OBS and OpenQA, they are indeed abandoning the distro proper. Anything else is just a word game.
    They are still working on OpenSUSE - there is a lot more to a distro than just pushing new releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcalde View Post
    YAnd how relevant to OpenSUSE users is it that "the number of paid [SUSE employees] stays the same" if they're not working on OpenSUSE anymore? That's still a net loss of people working on OpenSUSE. In fact, by focusing their effort on OBS and OpenQA, they are indeed abandoning the distro proper. Anything else is just a word game.
    OBS and OpenQA are components of openSUSE. The aren't "abandoning the distro proper", any more than having developers work on KDE or GNome patches would be. They are temporarily shifting their focus from one component of the distribution to another.

    The fact of the matter is, there are only so many people paid to work on openSUSE. Spending more time in one area of openSUSE necessarily requires them spending less time on another area of openSUSE. There are things that need to be done in order to make openSUSE better. We can play semantic games all we want about whether they are still working on openSUSE or not. But at the end of the day, there is stuff that needs to get done, and this the only way it is going to happen.

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