Voting Proposed For Debian Jessie's Init System
Phoronix: Voting Proposed For Debian Jessie's Init System
After last week having an update on the current init system debate within Debian -- largely between systemd and Upstart -- and a major music company coming out in favor of systemd, the init system for Debian Jessie may now be taken to a vote...
3 Votes so far...
> The default init system for Linux architectures in jessie should be
> 1. systemd
> 2. upstart
> 3. openrc
> 4. sysvinit (no change)
> 5. requires further discussion.
Bdale Garbee: 12345, https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte.../msg00426.html
Russ Allbery: 12534, https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte.../msg00427.html
Keith Packard (Intel): 12435, https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte.../msg00435.html
No surprises there; of the 8 members, those are the three that have strongly come out in favor of systemd. There are three others that have come out strongly in favor of Upstart (two Canonical employees and one former employee).
The ones to watch are Don Armstrong and Andreas Barth. Armstrong came out slightly in favor of systemd, and Barth in favor of upstart but not really happy with any of the choices.
Last edited by Scimmia; 01-26-2014 at 02:40 AM.
I've pushed for systemd and sooner the better. Get this crap agreed upon. Debian keeps stalling all sorts of package upgrades whether its the asinine libpng upgrade, to this to whatever, the crap just gets slower and slower to update without banging on half-assed updates via Experimental.
If FreeBSD 10.1 continues to evolve I'll be spending more and more time on it, rather than Linux.
That's the main problem with any project/group, you start small can make changes quickly, then you grow, start adding laws and bureaucracy, politics and personal ambitions creep in, infighting, and suddenly realize you look a lot like a typical slow bureaucratic corporate dinosaur, which debian is, without "corporate".
Originally Posted by Marc Driftmeyer
In a corporation you usually at least have someone who can make decisions unilaterally.
Originally Posted by mark45
Hey, does anyone remember this? https://www.change.org/petitions/len...ystemd-journal
I think Debian will go with the crowd and adopt SystemD anyway. But whatever, let's just move on once and for all.
Yeah, if it's one person calling the shots it's a dictatorship, if everyone gets a saying it takes a long time to change something. You can't have it all, but the second approach is more just.
Originally Posted by mark45
Yeah, same thing here. I met a Debian and two Fedora guys once, but all the others use Ubuntu. Thank goodness all this distro wars crap doesn't affect us much around here. There are a few Mac worshippers around here, but it's mostly due to the (former) elite status of iCraps.
Originally Posted by Anarchy