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  • #81
    Originally posted by Adarion View Post
    Second: It is definitely a nice gesture. Of course they might speculate to gain some development power for their SteamOS issues and help from the Debian devs but hey, why not?
    it's just a way for valve to say thanks to debian developers, since steamos is based on debian.

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    • #82
      people that hate valve, drm and great games like battlefield4, cod , nfs, fifa etc, can continue to play tux cart , stop trolling.

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      • #83
        Is steams DRM really that bad??
        Steam play allows me to buy once and play on either mac/windows/linux
        Games allowing Steams (beta) family sharing,with my permission, let another 10 accounts access to your games
        access from any computer anywhere anytime
        cloud saves allowing me to continue my game elsewhere
        A vac ban only stops me playing on vac secured servers not non VAC servers or single player games

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        • #84
          Originally posted by pandev92 View Post
          people that hate valve, drm and great games like battlefield4, cod , nfs, fifa etc, can continue to play tux cart , stop trolling.
          DRM-free and open source games aren't matching 1:1. So it's you who should stop trolling.

          Originally posted by DDF420 View Post
          Is steams DRM really that bad??
          I'd ask a question, is any kind of DRM good? I know of none. They are all bad. But if you evaluate DRM only on the scale of comfort, you easily can come to "acceptable" forms. I don't evaluate it on the scale of comfort as as a primary issue, though I can say that any DRM always means reduced usability.
          Last edited by shmerl; 22 January 2014, 08:53 PM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by brosis View Post
            On contrary, they have control, and they want users to use Steam, so they choose Steam only. I agree, that this is dumb.

            I hope they do provide all Steam games, not only Valve games as they do with Reviewers Account. Perhaps it happens after the official launch of Steambox as they will need to boost the attention to SteamOS.
            Why does Valve need to provide Debian developers with the entire Steam category? Not even Valve's own employees get free games. That gets into illegal territory. This is simply a gift from Valve, who owns the licenses to the IP of their own games, to Debian developers. Valve does not own the IP for games that aren't their own even if they sell those games on their platform. They are merely a distribution middleman.

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            • #86
              If Valve doesn't fix L4D2 soon I'm going to shake my fist really, really hard at the monitor.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by shmerl View Post
                DRM-free and open source games aren't matching 1:1. So it's you who should stop trolling.



                I'd ask a question, is any kind of DRM good? I know of none. They are all bad. But if you evaluate DRM only on the scale of comfort, you easily can come to "acceptable" forms. I don't evaluate it on the scale of comfort as as a primary issue, though I can say that any DRM always means reduced usability.

                Yes, because this, open source games sucks like urban terror, tux cart, open arena etc etc, you can continue playing this, I wil play for you, battlefield 4 on my Windows 8.1 goodbye troll.

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                • #88
                  Please don't trash the Super Tux Cart devs over someone else's games

                  Originally posted by pandev92 View Post
                  people that hate valve, drm and great games like battlefield4, cod , nfs, fifa etc, can continue to play tux cart , stop trolling.
                  I'm sure the folks who work on Super Tux Cart put a lot of work into their efforts and have PLENTY of satisfied users. Hell, I just saw the cart from the Mario Super Cart game that inspired it used as a 3-d plastic promo item inside a computer store less than a week ago! As for me, I am happy with 0ad, Scorched3d (especially the new version!), Critter and so forth. If the pay games users are forcing driver development to speed up, I benefit too-and my SECURITY benefits because I don't have to use closed drivers.

                  If I wrote Super Tux Cart, I would have to add a sequence where the cart can be used to run down a troll who tries to block the track!

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by nll_a
                    Yeah, even RMS said Steam coming to Linux has more advantages than disadvantages to us, so there's no point in discussing this.
                    Where did he said that? I remember that he said that he is not shure if its better or worse.

                    And even if he thinks it would be better, because more people come in contact with free software and maybe learn what stands behind it and then stopp using steam as example, that would not mean that rms said that drm and steam is good in the first place that it exists.

                    DRM or not is not the most important question to me, the question is do you accept a proprietary gaming environment and proprietary games, if you accept anything, a special pc with steam-os and games on it is most likely the best option, the alternatives are dongled pcs aka consoles or windows all to with more drm stuff.


                    The question is then of course if microsoft maybe will have lost his dominance and then fast completly vanish from gamer pcs, because if on linux work at some point 90-100% of all comercial games 0% of users will stick to windows because it costs money and is slower and has more viruses and has not even a working installer. its just bad except that before more games did run.

                    So if steam becomes dominant, will they as example stick to their low prices with rabatt weeks and such stuff.


                    And another question is then will all the f2p games that seem to be the (new) big thing, be availible through steam.

                    And yes for me that means seperating environments, no matter if windows or steamos with propriatary shit on it, its on a seperate gaming-only, where nsa has admin rights, and the clean linux box with at least some small chance that they dont have root access, at least as long as I am not flagged in their db.

                    Some sandboxing mechanisms would be interesting too, so you would not destroy 100% of all security in a linux box if you mix some propriatary software into your gnu/linux.



                    Of course maybe we will come to a point where people release opensource games and sell "them", I mean selling the art-work that would work perfectly without violating the gpl and without violating the security of the users.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Luke View Post
                      I'm sure the folks who work on Super Tux Cart put a lot of work into their efforts and have PLENTY of satisfied users. Hell, I just saw the cart from the Mario Super Cart game that inspired it used as a 3-d plastic promo item inside a computer store less than a week ago! As for me, I am happy with 0ad, Scorched3d (especially the new version!), Critter and so forth. If the pay games users are forcing driver development to speed up, I benefit too-and my SECURITY benefits because I don't have to use closed drivers.

                      If I wrote Super Tux Cart, I would have to add a sequence where the cart can be used to run down a troll who tries to block the track!
                      don't worry, Obama don't want to know the porn that you have in your pc. No insecurity

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