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    Default Eric S. Raymond Calls Out The FSF/GCC On Clang

    Phoronix: Eric S. Raymond Calls Out The FSF/GCC On Clang

    Eric S. Raymond has made some very interesting -- and what surely will be considered very controversial remarks -- about the Free Software Foundation's views on the GCC compiler and its lack of acceptance towards (potentially non-free) compiler plug-ins in a time of LLVM's Clang existence and ongoing acceptance...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU3ODU

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    Default ESR and Plugins

    ESR is either unaware of the facts or being disingenous for rhetorical purposes. Fact of that matter is that GCC has supported plugins for a long time and carved licensing exceptions for such plugins to make it palaptable for other purposes. Example,

    https://fedorahosted.org/gcc-python-plugin/

    There are interface issues and other technical problems which need to be fixed and GCC developers are well aware of that. ESR's post doesn't seem to serve any real purpose other than to flame and misdirect the conversation.

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    Eric S Raymond is well known to be a traitor of Freedom in software.

    His advocacy on the so called "unix philosophy" has hold Linux in certain areas. RMS once said he is more harm then good to the FOSS community.

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    Default David Kastrup puts it best in his reply...

    You are crossposting to two public project lists of the GNU project with
    inflammatory language and mischaracterizations. You have been involved
    with the GNU project long enough to be well aware that this kind of
    crowbar approach does not lead to much more than headlines about Free
    Software infighting.
    Quoted from http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2014-01/msg00178.html

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    What's next, I wonder, a proposal to relicense GCC under a BSD licence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1kkko
    What's next, I wonder, a proposal to relicense GCC under a BSD licence?
    No, modify the law and take LLVM devs to the Free Software court and force them to re-license LLVM under GPLv3.

    It'll teach Apple, B$D and all those Anti-GPL trolls a lesson.
    Last edited by endman; 01-21-2014 at 11:21 PM.

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    I see this as a slow attempt to turn things proprietary and earn money by lock-in.

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    Default Meh

    I don't think it matters. Clang isn't going to go away if GCC starts accepting non-free plugins, and i don't think it would even slightly slow down anything. That's not why people use clang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitty3268 View Post
    I don't think it matters. Clang isn't going to go away if GCC starts accepting non-free plugins, and i don't think it would even slightly slow down anything. That's not why people use clang.
    This^. Clang uses a completely different design philosophy and I bet it is interesting to the devs to see where it will take them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitty3268 View Post
    I don't think it matters. Clang isn't going to go away if GCC starts accepting non-free plugins, and i don't think it would even slightly slow down anything. That's not why people use clang.
    Yes, it's about choice. What matters is the need, everyone will choose what best fit their need if there is a choose.

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