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    Default Mono Developers Renew Their Love For Microsoft

    Phoronix: Mono Developers Renew Their Love For Microsoft

    Xamarin, the company driving the development of the Mono open-source .NET framework that is generally loved or hated by Phoronix readers, has announced a new partnership with Microsoft...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUxMzA

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    Why would anyone not want to have mono on Linux?

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    When MSIL/C# was announced I thought it would be the future. A pseudo machine code, modern language layers, come C++ power. Well it could have been. The problem was Microsoft kept it in doors. They did not produce any solution for Linux or Apple or other operating system They didn't even make Silverlight for Firefox. These decisions sealed MSIL fate. Mono Project tried to solve the problem but they've always been too far behind, and rarely 1 to 1 compatible. I can't see MSIL/C# ever succeeding mainstream without Mono Project being given head to head status with CSharp releases.

    Consider now LLVM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filar View Post
    Why would anyone not want to have mono on Linux?
    Because it broke the customs of Linux Users and freedom. Mono was tethered to Microsoft indirectly. If Mono was used, then something completely open and free may not. Also initially people were suspicious with the licensing but Microsoft cleared that up with public announcements.

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    Doing some checks. Xamarin is a wrapper-module that can produce Android(Java), Microsoft, and iOS7 apps. It has components for Visual Studio or you can use their IDE that is only available for Apple and Microsoft. If you use their Apple IDE you need Mono Project which would limit the scope of abilities compared to using Microsoft Solutions. There is no Linux support other than maybe trying to get it running in Wine which maybe a nightmare.

    Xamarin is free to individuals, but it's a crippled version. Cripples in size of apps you can produce and other feature limits.

    I think Xamarin maybe a solution for Windows Surface developers to allow them to deploy to Android and Apple. I don't see the the verse happening. Maybe some Apple Users will use Xamarin to get their apps to Android.

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    This forum's edit timeout sucks.

    Another point is Mono Development IDE can also be used to make Android apps.

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    "Mono Developers Renew Their Love For Microsoft"
    -- No... so wrong... Yes I "LOVE" C# for very good reasons. I really like .NET and Mono because I can run my baby C# on every device I can think of.

    In no way do I love MS or Xamarian. While a lot of time and money is needed to develop Xamarian/Mono with iOS/Android API wrappers and debuggers, the fact that you need to buy a Xamarian licence to compile your own version of Mono for iOS and Android without these special features is my only complaint. While part of the problem is GPL itself when it comes to iOS...

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    Default what...

    There is no Linux support other than maybe trying to get it running in Wine which maybe a nightmare.
    Mono runs on Linux... did you look up anything before posting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by e8hffff View Post
    Because it broke the customs of Linux Users and freedom. Mono was tethered to Microsoft indirectly. If Mono was used, then something completely open and free may not. Also initially people were suspicious with the licensing but Microsoft cleared that up with public announcements.
    Except that those announcement (far as I can tell as an outside observer) didn't really clear anything up. Those who wanted to believe, accepted these "promises" as definitive, those who didn't trust Microsoft pointed out that they weren't, actually -- they were either not truly binding, or in so far as they were binding, were too narrow and arbitrary in scope to be relied on in real life or in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filar View Post
    Why would anyone not want to have mono on Linux?
    In my opinion, having it is not bad in itself. What's bad is developers specifically targeting it, instead of using native cross-platform tools. It's something between having a native program and having it run through Wine in my view.

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